Please Help: Europe MBA Low Gmat & 2.5 years of work ex


Kubrick13

Can anyone suggest probable colleges where I stand a fighting chance
Here's a recap of my profile
- 25-year-old male
- Grew up in India
- GPA : 70% (3.7/4)
- Undergraduate degree in Engineering(Polymer Science & Chemical Technology) from "Delhi University" (Delhi College of Engineering) one of the top 10 colleges in the country.
- 2.5 years(till date) of Business Development work in educational consulting firm (Gateway Abroad Ltd.) and in a local Educational group as Business Development Manager, setting up a new center, handling all the operations, mentoring and training students for various competitive examinations(catering 7000 students annually ).
- GMAT : 650(Q49, V28) in 2012 & 640(Q50, V25) recent one
- Active volunteering in an NGO (impacting 7000 households and 36000 residents)
- Ran a chapter of SIFE (now ENACTUS) successfully mentoring National award winning team in college
- Technical skills involving R programming, Statistical Inferences, Corel Draw, etc
- Trustee of a Chritable Trust

Can anyone suggest probable colleges where I stand a fighting chance
Here's a recap of my profile
- 25-year-old male
- Grew up in India
- GPA : 70% (3.7/4)
- Undergraduate degree in Engineering(Polymer Science & Chemical Technology) from "Delhi University" (Delhi College of Engineering) one of the top 10 colleges in the country.
- 2.5 years(till date) of Business Development work in educational consulting firm (Gateway Abroad Ltd.) and in a local Educational group as Business Development Manager, setting up a new center, handling all the operations, mentoring and training students for various competitive examinations(catering 7000 students annually ).
- GMAT : 650(Q49, V28) in 2012 & 640(Q50, V25) recent one
- Active volunteering in an NGO (impacting 7000 households and 36000 residents)
- Ran a chapter of SIFE (now ENACTUS) successfully mentoring National award winning team in college
- Technical skills involving R programming, Statistical Inferences, Corel Draw, etc
- Trustee of a Chritable Trust
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Duncan

Take a look at the Tier 5 schools at: GMAT Tiers - strong schools for your GMAT www.find-mba.com/board/27082

Take a look at the Tier 5 schools at: GMAT Tiers - strong schools for your GMAT www.find-mba.com/board/27082
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maury

If I were you I would work on my GMAT score. You're in a highly competitive applicant group, and your work experience is a bit on the low side. Your work experience and volunteer experience will be interesting, but only to a point.

You could possibly aim for a school like MIB or Pforzheim, but your chances are going to depend on what their applicant group looks like this year, and how you stack up to the other applicants. Better to play it safe and try to bump your GMAT to 700.

If I were you I would work on my GMAT score. You're in a highly competitive applicant group, and your work experience is a bit on the low side. Your work experience and volunteer experience will be interesting, but only to a point.

You could possibly aim for a school like MIB or Pforzheim, but your chances are going to depend on what their applicant group looks like this year, and how you stack up to the other applicants. Better to play it safe and try to bump your GMAT to 700.
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Inactive User

Agreed with maury. Just adding that if you're specifically looking at MBAs in Europe and you want to work in the country where you study after graduation, the languages you speak will influence your choice. I wouldn't study at Pforzheim for instance if I did not speak German.

Might be better to look at schools in the UK if you don't speak any other European langauges.

Agreed with maury. Just adding that if you're specifically looking at MBAs in Europe and you want to work in the country where you study after graduation, the languages you speak will influence your choice. I wouldn't study at Pforzheim for instance if I did not speak German.

Might be better to look at schools in the UK if you don't speak any other European langauges.
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akash_1412

Hi Kubrick13,

I think reviews from a student of the university you are interested in are one of the best ways to judge a university program. I am totally satisfied after 1 year of my studies here at Hochschule Pforzheim. The quality of education that is being provided here is totally worth the cost. So firstly, I would totally disagree with above stated posts that you need to know german language to get a job in Germany. Companies in the 20th century are international enough to have ample job positions in English. But still, MBA - Hochschule Pforzheim gives an opportunity to learn the language free of cost. Next, unlike the UK, you get a 1 year visa after your studies to find a job. Last, your score and work experience look good to me atleast. You can contact the MBA office and they will of course help you out. :)

Hi Kubrick13,

I think reviews from a student of the university you are interested in are one of the best ways to judge a university program. I am totally satisfied after 1 year of my studies here at Hochschule Pforzheim. The quality of education that is being provided here is totally worth the cost. So firstly, I would totally disagree with above stated posts that you need to know german language to get a job in Germany. Companies in the 20th century are international enough to have ample job positions in English. But still, MBA - Hochschule Pforzheim gives an opportunity to learn the language free of cost. Next, unlike the UK, you get a 1 year visa after your studies to find a job. Last, your score and work experience look good to me atleast. You can contact the MBA office and they will of course help you out. :)
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Duncan

The above posts don't say that you need German to get a job in Germany, so that's a red herring. The point is that knowing German is a huge advantage for candidates in Germany, even those who think we are still in the 20th century.

It's a good idea to look at Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713 and then also to search sites like Xing and LinkedIn to see where Pforzheim MBAs end up.

The above posts don't say that you need German to get a job in Germany, so that's a red herring. The point is that knowing German is a huge advantage for candidates in Germany, even those who think we are still in the 20th century.

It's a good idea to look at Do you need to speak the local language? www.find-mba.com/board/34713 and then also to search sites like Xing and LinkedIn to see where Pforzheim MBAs end up.
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maury

Hi Kubrick13,

I think reviews from a student of the university you are interested in are one of the best ways to judge a university program. I am totally satisfied after 1 year of my studies here at Hochschule Pforzheim. The quality of education that is being provided here is totally worth the cost. So firstly, I would totally disagree with above stated posts that you need to know german language to get a job in Germany. Companies in the 20th century are international enough to have ample job positions in English. But still, MBA - Hochschule Pforzheim gives an opportunity to learn the language free of cost. Next, unlike the UK, you get a 1 year visa after your studies to find a job. Last, your score and work experience look good to me atleast. You can contact the MBA office and they will of course help you out. :)

OK, a couple of issues with this:

- you're not done with your studies so you haven't hit the job market yet. You can be satisfied with the program, but if you're looking for work after you're done and aren't able to find it without language skills, that would be another story.

- yes, most MBA programs in English in Germany also give students the opportunity to take German language classes for free, including ranked schools like ESMT which offers intensive pre-MBA German courses. This is not unique to Pforzheim. And one or two years of German classes part time is certainly not enough to attain business-level fluency.

- even "20th century" firms need to hire based on the needs of their markets. And, except for the cases of German businesses that are completely internationally-facing, the market requires German skills.

[quote]Hi Kubrick13,

I think reviews from a student of the university you are interested in are one of the best ways to judge a university program. I am totally satisfied after 1 year of my studies here at Hochschule Pforzheim. The quality of education that is being provided here is totally worth the cost. So firstly, I would totally disagree with above stated posts that you need to know german language to get a job in Germany. Companies in the 20th century are international enough to have ample job positions in English. But still, MBA - Hochschule Pforzheim gives an opportunity to learn the language free of cost. Next, unlike the UK, you get a 1 year visa after your studies to find a job. Last, your score and work experience look good to me atleast. You can contact the MBA office and they will of course help you out. :)[/quote]
OK, a couple of issues with this:

- you're not done with your studies so you haven't hit the job market yet. You can be satisfied with the program, but if you're looking for work after you're done and aren't able to find it without language skills, that would be another story.

- yes, most MBA programs in English in Germany also give students the opportunity to take German language classes for free, including ranked schools like ESMT which offers intensive pre-MBA German courses. This is not unique to Pforzheim. And one or two years of German classes part time is certainly not enough to attain business-level fluency.

- even "20th century" firms need to hire based on the needs of their markets. And, except for the cases of German businesses that are completely internationally-facing, the market requires German skills.
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akash_1412

- I haven't hit the job market but I of course chose this university after doing a rigorous research about the alumni. And only after that I came to know that all the people who wanted to work in Germany after graduating from this college are working here, HAPPILY.

P.S. I am a student here and my work is not to lie or false advertise about the college I am studying in :)

- I haven't hit the job market but I of course chose this university after doing a rigorous research about the alumni. And only after that I came to know that all the people who wanted to work in Germany after graduating from this college are working here, HAPPILY.

P.S. I am a student here and my work is not to lie or false advertise about the college I am studying in :)
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maury



P.S. I am a student here and my work is not to lie or false advertise about the college I am studying in :)

I'm not implying that you're lying. It's just that in making the decision to attend this school, you have incentive to promote it.

I think it's fine if you want to comment on your experiences so far, but without real statistics to backup your claims about post-MBA employment, like what is available from schools like ESMT and Mannheim (and which are confirmed by an external rankings agency), these claims are really just hearsay.

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P.S. I am a student here and my work is not to lie or false advertise about the college I am studying in :)[/quote]
I'm not implying that you're lying. It's just that in making the decision to attend this school, you have incentive to promote it.

I think it's fine if you want to comment on your experiences so far, but without real statistics to backup your claims about post-MBA employment, like what is available from schools like ESMT and Mannheim (and which are confirmed by an external rankings agency), these claims are really just hearsay.
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