MBA OR LLM


wildwind

Hi I am Lily, holding Chinese lawyer license, 3 years working experience in international IT companies for supply chain, and 2 years on legal service. Now I am living in German for family reason, with basic German language skills. In order to find a proper job in Germany, I realized further study is very necessary, for reason of both language improvement and the culture of recruitment in Germany. I am wondering if I should do LLM or MBA here. LLM is of my interest, but seems not job securing based on Germany legal education and practice reality (5 years education and practice + exams, I am 32 years old), MBA sounds more positive for jobs but I really love to work on contracts and giving advices, instead, I am not really interested in managing people and office-politics.

what should I do??

Hi I am Lily, holding Chinese lawyer license, 3 years working experience in international IT companies for supply chain, and 2 years on legal service. Now I am living in German for family reason, with basic German language skills. In order to find a proper job in Germany, I realized further study is very necessary, for reason of both language improvement and the culture of recruitment in Germany. I am wondering if I should do LLM or MBA here. LLM is of my interest, but seems not job securing based on Germany legal education and practice reality (5 years education and practice + exams, I am 32 years old), MBA sounds more positive for jobs but I really love to work on contracts and giving advices, instead, I am not really interested in managing people and office-politics.

what should I do??
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Duncan

You may be better advised to spend the time learning German. If you want to to legal work in Germany, I would imagine that a new degree like the LLM is not very well recognised, since most lawyers take the states' examinations rather than university degrees.

There are joint programmes in law and business: http://www.bucerius.whu.edu/ is a great example.

You may be better advised to spend the time learning German. If you want to to legal work in Germany, I would imagine that a new degree like the LLM is not very well recognised, since most lawyers take the states' examinations rather than university degrees.

There are joint programmes in law and business: http://www.bucerius.whu.edu/ is a great example.
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Evan2007

Hi Lily - Overall, I think an MBA would be a more effective qualification to enter the German job market. The Bucerius/WHU MBL program that Duncan mentioned is an interesting mix of both aspects.

It might also be interesting to leverage your Chinese background in the European/German business context. But there are no German business schools that I know of with any kind of European-Asia business angle.

Hi Lily - Overall, I think an MBA would be a more effective qualification to enter the German job market. The Bucerius/WHU MBL program that Duncan mentioned is an interesting mix of both aspects.

It might also be interesting to leverage your Chinese background in the European/German business context. But there are no German business schools that I know of with any kind of European-Asia business angle.
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maubia

Mannheim offers the Mannheim-Tonjii emba

Mannheim offers the Mannheim-Tonjii emba
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Duncan

You can search for business programmes concerned with Asia at http://www.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/international-programmes/07535.en.html?iplevel=2&ipterm=Asia&ipfield=03&ipsubject=&iptypehei=&iptownhei=&iphei=&iplangdistribution=&iptuitionfees=&studienbeginn=&ipduration=&ipenter.x=92&ipenter.y=17

You can search for business programmes concerned with Asia at http://www.daad.de/deutschland/studienangebote/international-programmes/07535.en.html?iplevel=2&ipterm=Asia&ipfield=03&ipsubject=&iptypehei=&iptownhei=&iphei=&iplangdistribution=&iptuitionfees=&studienbeginn=&ipduration=&ipenter.x=92&ipenter.y=17
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Evan2007

Mannheim offers the Mannheim-Tonjii emba


Oh, yeah! Of course. Thanks.

<blockquote>Mannheim offers the Mannheim-Tonjii emba</blockquote>

Oh, yeah! Of course. Thanks.
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ezra

Hi Lily,

Tough decision, and will depend on what you ultimately want to do. You might want to check out this site, which offers great insight about LLM degrees:

http://www.llm-guide.com/

Do you want to stay in Germany? In terms of MBA programs, the business school scene has evolved a lot over the past few years. Definitely check these schools out:

Frankfurt School of Finance & Management
WHU - Otto Beisheim Graduate School of Management
EBS Business School

And also, read this article to get more info:
http://www.find-mba.com/article/279/mba-programs-in-germany-dont-let-the-rankings-fool-you


Hi I am Lily, holding Chinese lawyer license, 3 years working experience in international IT companies for supply chain, and 2 years on legal service. Now I am living in German for family reason, with basic German language skills. In order to find a proper job in Germany, I realized further study is very necessary, for reason of both language improvement and the culture of recruitment in Germany. I am wondering if I should do LLM or MBA here. LLM is of my interest, but seems not job securing based on Germany legal education and practice reality (5 years education and practice + exams, I am 32 years old), MBA sounds more positive for jobs but I really love to work on contracts and giving advices, instead, I am not really interested in managing people and office-politics.

what should I do??

Hi Lily,

Tough decision, and will depend on what you ultimately want to do. You might want to check out this site, which offers great insight about LLM degrees:

http://www.llm-guide.com/

Do you want to stay in Germany? In terms of MBA programs, the business school scene has evolved a lot over the past few years. Definitely check these schools out:

Frankfurt School of Finance & Management
WHU - Otto Beisheim Graduate School of Management
EBS Business School

And also, read this article to get more info:
http://www.find-mba.com/article/279/mba-programs-in-germany-dont-let-the-rankings-fool-you



<blockquote>Hi I am Lily, holding Chinese lawyer license, 3 years working experience in international IT companies for supply chain, and 2 years on legal service. Now I am living in German for family reason, with basic German language skills. In order to find a proper job in Germany, I realized further study is very necessary, for reason of both language improvement and the culture of recruitment in Germany. I am wondering if I should do LLM or MBA here. LLM is of my interest, but seems not job securing based on Germany legal education and practice reality (5 years education and practice + exams, I am 32 years old), MBA sounds more positive for jobs but I really love to work on contracts and giving advices, instead, I am not really interested in managing people and office-politics.

what should I do??</blockquote>
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maubia



And also, read this article to get more info:
http://www.find-mba.com/article/279/mba-programs-in-germany-dont-let-the-rankings-fool-you



I read the comments and I found really bad words against ESMT .. are they so bad? Next Sunday I have a 30min meeting (I received an invitation from them for the 121connect event) with them ..very curious.

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And also, read this article to get more info:
http://www.find-mba.com/article/279/mba-programs-in-germany-dont-let-the-rankings-fool-you

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I read the comments and I found really bad words against ESMT .. are they so bad? Next Sunday I have a 30min meeting (I received an invitation from them for the 121connect event) with them ..very curious.
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Duncan

That comment about ESMT is off the mark. I have replied to it. I know a few of the staff at ESMT from LBS and EDHEC, and they are great.

That comment about ESMT is off the mark. I have replied to it. I know a few of the staff at ESMT from LBS and EDHEC, and they are great.
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maubia

That comment about ESMT is off the mark. I have replied to it. I know a few of the staff at ESMT from LBS and EDHEC, and they are great.



Good answer.. I found hard to believe that an mba run in Berlin and managed by 25 large german companies is a fake!

<blockquote>That comment about ESMT is off the mark. I have replied to it. I know a few of the staff at ESMT from LBS and EDHEC, and they are great.</blockquote>


Good answer.. I found hard to believe that an mba run in Berlin and managed by 25 large german companies is a fake!
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Duncan

I think he might have been referring to SIMT, which had a lot of problems.

I think he might have been referring to SIMT, which had a lot of problems.
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