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wfarouk2 Joined: 13 Dec 2007 Posts: 1	GUC MBA Fri Dec 14, 2007 12:16 PM Any information about the GUC MBA program? Is it good?
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lukeh Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 387	GUC MBA Sun Dec 16, 2007 04:49 PM www.guc.edu.eg/mba/mba.htm
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Bassem Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 6	GUC MBA Mon Feb 18, 2008 06:42 PM The GUC program is very bad, its still budding and they treat people like they are the only uni. that provides MBA programs in egypt. I applied in the GUC, then i was totally disappointed when i met the german prof. in the interview.... He just rejected the interview because i look too young do you imagine that... Later i learned from my friends who already finished their study there that it was one of their worst descisions that they studied the MBA in the GUC..
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joergalbers Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 33	GUC MBA Tue Feb 19, 2008 07:22 PM Dear Bassem, that sounds worrying... I am very sorry for your abd experience. For the point of view of personal contact, there seems to be some deficiencies. Can you tell me a bit more? How about the quality of the MBA program? I tried to find out about the accreditations of the MBA, but there is only a mention of the "accreditations of the partner universities", supposed to be valid for the GUC MBA. I didn't really understand. Looking forward to your comment
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Bassem Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 6	GUC MBA Wed Feb 20, 2008 04:50 PM Dear joergalbers, I realy cant asure you for the quality of MBA program in GUC because i didnt try it myself so i dont want to judge it from the opinions of my friends who already are doing it there...But what i can tell you is that their website was never updated since a year or more, all the info for the requirments to apply for MBA is wrong, they are always late for replying to any mail or msg to them, even when i tried to escalate my case to the dean or anyone else than the reception i was never answered... im realy furious because i wasted more than 3 months waiting for an interview then rejected for my young appearance.... anyways im still making a survey about other better programs... i'll keep u updated ;)
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joergalbers Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 33	GUC MBA Thu Feb 21, 2008 03:22 PM Hi Bassem, thanks for the reply. It is very curious that they rejected you for the appearance. How do you know, did they say so explicitely? Which other MBA programs of Egypt you consider interesting for international students? Where will you apply now? I would appreciate very much if you let me know a bit more about the Egyptian business schools. Thanks and good, better luck with your up coming interviews! Jörg
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Bassem Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 6	GUC MBA Sun Feb 24, 2008 10:23 AM Hi joergalbers, Thanks for your care. About the rejection it was one of the most embarassing situations i have ever faced in an unprofessional place. In the interview with the german profesor he didnt introduce him self neither let me do so, he just asked me to introduce myself and then interupted me when i said im 24 years old he said "OOO you are still 24 why do you want to take MBA in such young age" i answered that my wife just finished her MBA at the age of 23 that means she started at 21, he answered that this would never happen in the GUC and that he is sorry that he wont abble to take me and if i have taken the Gmat course maybe he can think about it....... I was too furios i kept asking him why was i rejected before even intreviewing me and that i need to know my week points so i can work on them to be a better candidate next time...he just smiled and said "Bassem dont take it personal but you realy look too young and other students of MBA in the GUC are very older than you..you are a perfect candidate but you just look too young" thats it... im still investigating other business schools and when i reach conclusion i will keep you updated.... thanks. :)
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joergalbers Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 33	GUC MBA Mon Feb 25, 2008 08:47 PM Oh gee, that sounds unpleasant! I am really sorry that you had to face this situation. But in on point the professor was right, don't take it personally. I guess the reason for this evaluation of his was probably the following: In Germany, and in Europe in general, MBA is conceived as a degree fro young professionals with some years of work experience. That means that the students have finished their University studies of 4 or 5 years, then start working, and after maybe 3 years, as experienced you professionals, the integrate the MBA. Keeping this in mind, the idea of the professor who was in the meeting with you, was probably: Oh another one who did not understand the idea of the MBA... Possible? For the rest, not introducing himself etc, as German myself, I must admit this could be the typical German lack of manners... we are not as well educated to respect social rules of politeness as in other cultures, unfortunately - Germans tend to be more direct with things, "forgetting" strict rules of politeness, for the sake of clearity. Maybe you can tell me: What is the general habit in Egypt for MBA, is it for young professionals, or doyou do it right after finishing the Bachelor, without any work experience? [Edited by joergalbers on 25 Feb 2008]
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Bassem Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 6	GUC MBA Wed Feb 27, 2008 04:05 PM okay so we conclude to say that his attitude was unproffesional...While he is a professor managing a business school teaching professionalism.... and about the minimum years of experince would in other programs ranges from 1-2 years i already have been working nearly 3 years. anyways you seem to have a great knowledge about MBA programs Do you know anything about the MIBA program provided by eslsca in france? arab academy for science and technology in egypt teaches this program and i wanted to know if its accredited world wide or not [Edited by Bassem on 27 Feb 2008]
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lukeh Joined: 24 Oct 2007 Posts: 387	GUC MBA Thu Feb 28, 2008 08:33 PM Hi Bassem, I don't know whether you've looked at their website already. Probably you have. But I noticed this interesting statement on it. "AAGSB degree programs are accredited locally, regionally & internationally from all recognized accreditation bodies including the Egyptian Supreme Council for Universities." Which all seems well and good. But they don't go on to say which accreditation bodies they mean specifically. They do, however, have exchange programmes set up with the following universities worldwide: Central Michigan University-USA. The Euro-Arab School of Management, Spain. University of London, London School of Economics (LSE), UK. École Supérieure Libre Des Sciences Commercials Appliqués, France Stockholm University, Sweden. EURO Med MARSEILLE, France. Rennes International School of Business, France. University of Sunderland, UK. And I'd be surprised if any of those institutions would want to be closely associated with another which wasn't properly accredited. Better to be safe than sorry, though: why not drop them an email and ask? Unless anyone else on here knows the answer already....
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kshamandi Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 13	GUC MBA Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:56 AM GUC is just new uni in Egypt and need help and support but egyptians liked it as it sound western for them so its powerful..for me if they offer me a full MBA scholarship in GUC I wouldnt for for it.It still a new brand and I dont think its able to stand out from the crowd with high profile MBA programs in the UK or USA.Briefly if u want to do an MBA and work in the local market then do it in Egypt but if u want to compete and work in an international market enviroment then u have to think twice and be ready by getting MBA from a high profile business school in the UK or USA.
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andy.j. Joined: 10 Jul 2008 Posts: 175	GUC MBA Wed Feb 25, 2009 02:23 PM that's true - "GERMAN" still sounds powerful for a lot of people around the world. just think of "made in Germany" - still one of the best Marketing slogans there are! I agree with you about GUC - it would probably be just fine for local business, but you can't tell yet if it would be worth anything internationally.
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bomond Joined: 20 Mar 2009 Posts: 1	GUC MBA Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:53 PM I'm currently enrolled in their MBA program and it seems very fine with me. Since they got a new MBA coordinator Samia things started to apear well. They attract good proffessors to lecture difference subjects. They also have a great facility for international students and for the undersgrads. If you want to get a good MBA degree then this is your choice!
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kshamandi Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 13	GUC MBA Sun Mar 22, 2009 01:02 AM hey man it seems like you are working with samia :):):) now I can see how the MBA program there is good:):) sorry mate about that but I can see that the GUC is a nuthing NO its less than nuthing in a fish bowl.many thanks :):):)
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Oshrat.H Joined: 06 Jul 2008 Posts: 67	GUC MBA Tue Mar 24, 2009 01:15 PM he answered that this would never happen in the GUC and that he is sorry that he wont abble to take me and if i have taken the Gmat course maybe he can think about it....... that sounds really unprofessional - did he mean a GMAT preparation course given by the school itself? you did take the GMAT right? how much did you get, if i might ask? O. [Edited by Oshrat.H on 24 Mar 2009]
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mohamed_mhp Joined: 03 Apr 2009 Posts: 1	GUC MBA Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:18 AM i was not asked such questions before, i have not taken my GMAT either. I think that they should give up gmat if one has good experiance in business
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Bassem Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 6	GUC MBA Tue Apr 07, 2009 08:00 AM Yeah you are right...they used to accept ANYONE as they needed to have their portion of the market for their budding program...then when people started to hear about their program ...they added some irrational decisions which they never had the guts to add it on their website ....anyways if anyone here defending the GUC program the least i can say is that its not even accredited inside egypt and u can ask them to proof with the accreditation letter from the gov.
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drwagih Joined: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 13	GUC MBA Fri May 15, 2009 09:57 AM GUYS! An MBA from EGYPT is very regional - limited to Egypt!! A simple rule applies to schools that offer MBA - Quality IN - Quality OUT! SO basically Schools that offer MBA in Egypt accept anyone and anyone who is just able to pay the tution fees even if he/she just grduated from college without even a single month of work experience. I wonder how the Arab Academy accepts students who have just graduated last year without even a GMAT or an admission test. Egyptians are brilliant students and they only need a chance to join international schools. I urge everyone who is able to barely fund himelf to try and join a top school even if it means that he/she will have to invest all the money they have. You can also apply for scholarships at: Citadel Foundation - www.citadelscholarships.org Sawiris Foundation - u can find more info via the American Chamber Bin rashed al maktoum scholarships - google it Cheers, Ahmed Wagih
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kshamandi Joined: 05 Feb 2009 Posts: 13	GUC MBA Fri May 15, 2009 04:02 PM Well done Ahmed I really liked your post and i'm sure that you don't live in Egypt, you said a conclusion of what I said or I was trying to say. All the best for every one Khaled MA Marketing student at London Metropolitan University
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drwagih Joined: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 13	GUC MBA Fri May 15, 2009 06:35 PM Thnx Khaled!! By the way, I am going for my Full-time MBA at Manchester Business School...this year!! I am flying to the Uk from 17th of August!! Hope to get to see ya then! I am currently working in East Africa - Kenya, Uganda and Rwanda!!! Cheers, Wagih [Edited by drwagih on 15 May 2009]
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bassam Joined: 09 Dec 2009 Posts: 2	GUC MBA Thu Dec 10, 2009 06:07 PM alsalam 3elekom. any one knws where to apply for mba ONLINE????
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Megahed Joined: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 3	GUC MBA Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:11 AM Guys! I have to disagree with you about the MBA in Egypt, you just have to choose the appropriate program, (as far as i know from my friends -RITI is very good), and at the end of the day, it depends on your attitude, wether you want the MBA for CV use or you really want to develop yourself (+ the CV of course) Also regarding spending all the money you've got on a MBA program, i find it not very rational, as you have other obligations in life, how would you leave your work? your wife and kids? etc... I say you have to search for a suitable program (A well-regarded university + affordable fees) or like Wagih said search for scholarships, or even try to negotiate with your employer to subsidize your MBA (which is very difficult in Egypt :) Regards, Mohamed Megahed
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drwagih Joined: 28 Mar 2009 Posts: 13	GUC MBA Mon Jan 04, 2010 01:09 PM Hi Megahed, Your words follow the route of wisdom, but do not bring exceptional success! The problem with us, is that we do not want to take risks and always love to do stuff the easy way! If you want to be the CEO or a senior manager at Exxon Mobil, Coca Cola, Phizer, Mercedes, Boeing etc. then you need to sacrifice and take risks. We have been raised to think local, to think Gulf (Saudi, Kuwait, UAE etc.), to think little…lets just one time think big and go out! Doing an MBA from a world top business school is a huge investment and a very long one, with an enormously positive NPV value! :):) Change and open yourself to the world by taking rational risks! All my best, Ahmed Wagih
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Megahed Joined: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 3	GUC MBA Mon Jan 04, 2010 02:24 PM Hi Wagih, I do agree with you, Yes we have to think big and out side the "local-regional" box, i love to take calculated risks and of course i am seeking exceptional success, Yet other obligations narrow our options, i have to invest in other things -such as children schools & better family residence,etc... by the way, do u know RITI in Egypt?
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Megahed Joined: 03 Jan 2010 Posts: 3	GUC MBA Mon Jan 04, 2010 02:46 PM i heard from my friends that it provides a very good program and that Maastricht School of Management (NL) is well accredited... Do u know about that? Thanks Megahed
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