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tracy

Joined: 15 Aug 2007
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Thu Aug 16, 2007 02:28 PM
I am planning to do my mba in Spain but i am really confused as to which are good universities there. I have heard of an European university. Could anyone tell me more about this university. Is it good? Also besides the top 4 mba colleges which are the colleges that are also good there. i want to do an mba which is very practical and not theoretical. Advise from some one who has studied in spain would be great.

thanks a lot

[Edited by tracy on 16 Aug 2007]
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LP


Joined: 19 Nov 2006
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Fri Aug 17, 2007 04:02 AM
The European University is pretty unknown in Spain, and has no international accreditation. It may still be a good place for an MBA, but I think it is wise to apply to programs that are accredited. At least you'll have some assurance that some minimum standards of quality are met.

IESE, Instituto de Empresa, and ESADE are considered the best programs in Spain. All three are very well known, internationally accredited, and well ranked. The MBA at EADA is also well reputed in Spain. It is internationally accredited, but does not appear in all rankings and, when it does, its position is quite low. Carlos III (Madrid) is also internationally accredited, but does not appear in any international rankings. There's also ESCP-EAP, which is not Spanish but has a campus in Madrid. I think it is also internationally accredited.

As far as I know, none of the other MBA programs in Spain is internationally accredited or ranked. Some of those, like EOI (Madrid) or Deusto (Bilbao), are relatively old and well reputed, at least within Spain. And there's also Pompeu Fabra (Barcelona).

[Edited by LP on 17 Aug 2007]
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tracy

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Fri Aug 17, 2007 01:55 PM
hey thanks for the advise... it was real helpful..... but i think that the top 3 colleges are really expensive....also for me more than popularity of the college is the quality of the classes conducted. i dont mind if they are accredited or not. cause i am from india and i just would like to do my mba in spain. and none of the top 3 colleges are know here. although i do have my reasons for doing my mba in spain.... eada sounds good...... but do they conduct their classes in spanish or in english?
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LP


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Fri Aug 17, 2007 02:45 PM
The International MBA at EADA is delivered in English, so that could be a good option for you. Carlos III and Pompeu also deliver their MBA programs in English. For Deusto and EOI you would need to learn Spanish.

If you care mostly about the quality of the classes, you should still consider whether the programs are accredited or not. Accreditation agencies do not evaluate the reputation of the school.They assess the quality of the programs. They evaluate the faculty, the curriculum, the way in which contents are delivered, and talk to students and alumni.

[Edited by LP on 17 Aug 2007]
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tracy

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Thu Aug 23, 2007 05:51 AM
hi
i did check carlos 3. it looks like a pretty good college. but i noticed that they stated that after completion of 1 year selected students get to do an additional year in an argentinan university..... i heard that if you do a one year course its just called a masters in mba and not a degree..... is it true? is there any difference in a 1 year mba and a 2 year mba? please let me know.....
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LP


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Thu Aug 23, 2007 03:03 PM
As far as I know, Carlos 3 has a double-degree agreement with Arizona State University, which is located in the US. I don't think they have any agreement with Argentina.

Both 1-year and 2-year MBAs are considered regular MBAs. In the US, the standard MBA is a two-year program, whereas in Europe the standard MBA degree lasts for one year. There are exceptions in both cases, but still most programs in Europe are one-year and most US programs are two-year.

The double-degree agreement means that you would get your MBA from Carlos 3 after one year and then, if you transfer to ASU, you would get an additional MBA degree after an extra year of coursework. If you don't transfer to ASU, you still have your regular one-year MBA.

[Edited by LP on 23 Aug 2007]
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a_mukerjee


Joined: 08 Sep 2006
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Tue Sep 25, 2007 08:16 PM
While surfing on the AACSB page, I saw a Spanish MBA accredited by AACSB, which I never heard of: Institut Quimic de Sarria.
Who knows more??
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LP


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Wed Sep 26, 2007 09:14 AM
You are right, they are AACSB accredited. It seems like a good place, but it does not offer an MBA. Their main strength is applied chemistry and they also offer a number of undergraduate degrees in business. As far as I know, all their degrees are delivered in Spanish.
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a_mukerjee


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Thu Sep 27, 2007 07:19 PM
I see, very specific. Interesting! But not interesting for us I guess...
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Camila

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Mon Nov 26, 2007 03:15 PM
I am planning to do my mba in Spain too. I have heard of BBS. Could anyone tell me more about this university. Is it good?

thanks a lot
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Malia

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Mon Nov 26, 2007 05:59 PM
Here are some nice comments: www.find-mba.com/board/2444
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Camila

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Mon Nov 26, 2007 10:03 PM
Tks... ;)
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SingleSpain

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Tue Nov 27, 2007 08:58 AM
The most recognized business schools in Spain are IESE, ESADE and IE.
BBS is not a safe option for an MBA, don't get confussed.
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Mario

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Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:05 AM
Due to my long research, the 4 business school ranked in higher or lower position and accredited in Spain are 4: IESE IE ESADE and EADA, since the range of prices and length of the programmes is variable, I would have a look at these. Starting from the first or from the third and then onwards depending on economical & time resources.
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SingleSpain

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Sun Dec 02, 2007 09:24 PM
Why do you put all the 4 schools in the same basket?
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a_mukerjee


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Thu Jan 10, 2008 03:23 PM
Well, the common factor, the "basket", is that those are the 4 Spanish schools that are ranked. That is of course an important point.

Otherwise those schools have a different brand, some of them are top notch (IE..), some have a more local reputation such as EADA.
But if you have a look at the rankings you will see that they reflect this, EADA is ranked behind the others etc..

[Edited by a_mukerjee on 10 Jan 2008]
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Post MBA


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Sat Jan 19, 2008 07:02 PM
I have attended ESADE (MBA and Ph.D. coursework) and have hired MBAs from IESE and BMI. Let me know if there is anything you would like to know about the value of the MBA from any of those schools. I do not recruit from EADA.

Full Disclosure: I am participating in the FIND MBA board as an excercise to provide an illustration for a segment I am teaching of the course "What the CEO wants you to know" at BMI www.barcelonami.org One of the readings for the segment is www.wired.com/wired/archive/15.04/wired40_ceo.html……………… Click on Post MBA for more biographical info.
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eliminator

Joined: 05 Feb 2008
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Wed Feb 06, 2008 08:30 AM
Hi all,

I have an admit from ESADE. I am thinking about possibilities - jobs Post MBA. I'll have 3 years Work Ex as a software engineer when I join ESADE this Aug.
I want to work in Europe post MBA - preferebly in UK. I am planning to work with a strategy-consulting firm post mba.
Someone please guide me regarding the present job scenario in ESADE. I wish to work with an internationally present blue-chip.
Salary packages as I see are quite less in ESADE compared to other top notch colleges. Must be a reason behind - I guess people opting for Spanish jobs? is it?

Comment guys!

[Edited by eliminator on 06 Feb 2008]
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SingleSpain

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Wed Feb 06, 2008 03:56 PM
Hi Eliminator,
Salaries in Spain are half aprox. that you can earn in other European cities like London or Paris. So earning 50k in Barcelona or Madrid are those that earns 100k in London, but you need to speak Spanish.

Despite that the fact that BCG or Mckinsey or Bain recruit at ESADE, I think that is not easy to secure a job at those firms. Which is your GMAT? Which other schools did you apply?
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eliminator

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Thu Feb 07, 2008 03:45 AM
Hi SingleSpain,

Thanks for replying. My GMAT score is 680 :( I believe this low gmat score is certainly going to make some impact.
I applied only to ESADE. The 18 months course attracted me a lot in comparision to other colleges in the league - IESE, RSM, Manchester etc.
But now I am geting worried about the job scenerio. I plan to take electives in ESADE with consulting as focus - and go for jobs prefereably in UK.
1. Please throw some light on job scenerio considering my profile.
2. I do not have an European passport. Would that make an impact on the number of jobs available for me? What is the process of acquiring work permit in European Countries? - would that be at all easy for me?
3. What is the impact of GMAT scores on jobs post mba? If my GMAT is really low, should I go ahead an retake GMAT? I have time - can give it before July.

Someone please try to explain.
Thanks
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SingleSpain

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Thu Feb 07, 2008 05:20 PM
Hi Eliminator,
Your GMAT is maybe low in the context of IT Indian Applicants but is the average for the European schools.
Regarding your situation, if you do not have a European passport maybe is more difficult to get a job in Europe than your peers with EU passport. The best is to ask to the school or alumni.
Maybe some people can give you here more opinions and experiences.
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anahitathukral

Joined: 07 Jul 2008
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Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:04 PM
heyy ...

hope you can help, since I am planing to do my MBA from Spain..but have no clue about the agenies/consultants in Delhi through whom it is to be applied to the universities..

Can u pls help me on this and also how much of work experince does universites in spain consider for MBA?

Thanks a lot!

Anahita
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Thomas


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Tue Jul 08, 2008 05:20 PM
Hi Eliminator

A GMAT score of 680 is alright. Though it is not fantastic, it certainty falls in the considerable range.

Management consulting jobs are exciting, especially in Europe, you would have plenty opportunities to work with leading firms. Since last year till now, I have been working with leading firms such as Henkel, BMW, Novartis, Novo Nordisk, Roche and such through my programme with McKinsey.

Regarding your question of getting a work permit as a non European. Please allow me to tell you that this process is not going to be easy. There are 2 typical barriers for non European looking for jobs in Europe: 1) local language; 2) working permit application. However, this is not impossible. I am one good example and I have been helping many other non European who have graduated in Europe to secure for jobs here.

Feel free to email me if you need some help!

Kind regards,
Thomas
thomaswai.blogspot.com

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rickys3084

Joined: 01 Dec 2008
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Tue Dec 02, 2008 07:20 PM
Does anyone knows universities at Barcelona which starts their MBA Full Time courses in March or april 2009?
I know that the European University starts on march but i would like to begin on march in a good and acredited university a MBA Full Time course but i can´t find anyone.
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SingleSpain

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Wed Dec 03, 2008 07:33 PM
Hi Anhaita,

Regarding Spanish Schools, I would advise to focus on IESE and ESADE, which are the most prestigious. They both ask for a min of 2 years fulltime work experience, and the average is around 4 years.

You may consider to apply directly (if GMAT is ok then do it)

regards,

Singlespain
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