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Also, an argument can be made that comparing INSEAD and HK UST is an insult to HK UST students...

Come on Shawn, that's just ridiculous. I think there has been enough cheap propaganda for HKUST in this board for the next years. Your way of spelling HK UST makes me believe you are the same person like Globetraveller, copernicus and AnalystNYC who have been suspiciously active in pushing this school. Let's talk about something else.

[Edited 12 Oct 2007 by LaVoz de Galicia]

Yes, it's an imaginary conspiracy.

The constant posts by Globetraveller and Copernicus about how great HKUST "really" is and how we all really been disillusioned about INSEAD and all the rest in HK.

How bout we make a wild bet that HKUST EMBA will get knocked off the top spot in EMBA's this year in the coming FT rankings.

Here is my suggestion. Go look through the resume book of the HKUST's MBA students, then take a look at INSEAD's. Comparable? Nope.

As for your emba quote. That's great. Well, you know what, university of Florida has the best beaches around it, so why don;t you go there. This is a FIND MBA forum, not EMBA. And most people are here talking about MBA's (no "E," get it?).

Frankly I appreciate the current debate. This seems to be a more honest exchange of ideas than what previously seemed like a bizzare anointing of HKUST as the best Asian MBA.

The fact is that we really can't get an objective view of most of these schools, they're too new to be really comparable. However, the fact that we're all online discussing them indicates that we have made a decision to attend an Asian business school and have our own reasons why. By their nature, all of our opinions will be subjective but that is more revealing than any impersonal ranking system.

However, if we merely get into a simplistic ranking method ourselves (HKUST is best! no its not!) then we don't really share anything. I can say that for myself, Insead seems ideal. However, it seems ideal for me based on what I'm looking for, not because I heard it was ranked higher than the others. I want to know more about the others though.

HKUST, HKU, NUS, CEIBS? What do you think of their faculty? Their research? Their career services? Your fellow classmates? These are the things I'd like to learn from people that know, not simple "1. 2. 3." If we can't make a decision based on rankings (because most of the time they're non-nonsensical) maybe we can help eachother with actual personal insight?

Not surprised about your NUS comments. I hadn't been hearing great things from most people actually. However a colleague of mine recommended it above everywhere else. He's from Mumbai and it probably has a great reputation there.

HKU's partnerships with LBS and CBS are exciting to me. For me that seems like a serious endorsement of the program though maybe its reputation hasn't caught up?

CEIBS i recognize as overrated, there is no way its in the top ten in the world, which is just silly, but it seems like a professional and well run program. It's also, relatively, an older and established program, no?

I'd love to put HK UST as my number 2. I'm just worried by its strong local / Chinese focus. CEIBS as the same issue of course, but at least its high ranking should help getting out of China if I want to.

How bout we make a wild bet that HKUST EMBA will get knocked off the top spot in EMBA's this year in the coming FT rankings.

HKUST doesn't seem to be on FT's MBA rankings, only its EMBA rankings. Any reason why?

HKUST doesn't seem to be on FT's MBA rankings, only its EMBA rankings. Any reason why?

do you see the full time MBA catching up in rankings to the EMBA level sometime in the future? obviously not #1, but more realistically top 20 in FT?

I heard that most of the EMBA professors also teach MBA classes, is that true?

do you see the full time MBA catching up in rankings to the EMBA level sometime in the future? obviously not #1, but more realistically top 20 in FT?

Well, EIU 2007 actually ranks HKUST MBA as N20 in the world. Whether it would happen with FT ranking I don't know, but being between N20 and N30 (i.e. the same level as Erasmus Rotterdam, Cornell, and other similar schools) is absolutely realistic within, let's say, five years.

I heard that most of the EMBA professors also teach MBA classes, is that true?

Yes, most of EMBA professors also teach MBA classes, that is true.

I spoke with someone with the inside track on business education in HK today, and to quote him "HKU is picking up the crumbs after HK UST" at this point in time.
What is your view on HKU compared to HK UST ?

I spoke with someone with the inside track on business education in HK today, and to quote him "HKU is picking up the crumbs after HK UST" at this point in time.
What is your view on HKU compared to HK UST ?

I would agree with this opinion.

During the MBA Fairs last year I also spoke with HKU people. Okay, I did not do too much research on HKU at that point of time, but what I could notice immediately was a kind of an attitude towards the prospective applicants - "Brother, this is HKU, we have everything and we are the best". This does not look really professional. In our class we have a few people who were admited to both HKU and HKUST, and preferred to go to HKUST. I cannot comment on HKU in more details, but according to what my coursemates and professors say from time to time, I would conclude that HKU MBA is not a real competitor to HKUST MBA at this point of time - in terms of programme quality and reputation at least. I cannot say about the corporate world.

[Edited 27 Oct 2007 by shawn.hk]

at the latest communist party congress, Hu Jintao basically pounded the table on shift into science and tech and how that is the priority for China in the next 5-10 years. any talk at Hong Kong USt of additional funding they will be receiving? I would think Tsinghua and HK UST should do well in terms of government subsidies in the next decade or so. whats your point of view on that?

whats your personal viewpoint on the battle for #1 in Asia Insead and Hong Kong USt? have you considered Insead in your selection process.

what is Insead's reputation on HK UST's campus?

[Edited 28 Oct 2007 by vasilijs]

what is Insead's reputation on HK UST's campus?

[Edited 05 Nov 2007 by lupo7]

what would be your "unbiased" Asian MBA ranking? top 5

[Edited 05 Nov 2007 by vasilijs]

I would say, both these schools are lausy and good at the same extend. But CEIBS is well ranked in FT rank, which gives it an advantage. I would say, there is really no difference. I also would advise such people to look at the joint programme between the National University of Singapore and Bejing University - you spend one year in Singapore and one year in Bejing, and get two MBA diplomas. I did not like it because I already have enough of Asian experience, and I am looking for Asian experience + good school. For someone from Europe or US who has never been to Asia, 1 year in Singapore plus 1 year in Bejing with reasonable MBA courses will make much more benefits and open much more prespectives than either HKU or CEIBS.