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pat

Joined: 28 Jan 2007
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Mon Jan 29, 2007 08:53 AM
Hello, I'm from Spain and I want to do an MBA in an Asian country, and I was wondering if (good) Asian prog. attract an international crowd as students like the European ones, or if they are more regional. Anyone knows how is the composition of classes, if I might might even be the only European student?
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Kate_hk

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Tue Jan 30, 2007 08:55 AM
There are some very good programs I can only advise. Take Insead in Singapore, and you can be sure the crowd is international. But depends as well where you intend to work afterwards.
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pat

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Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:49 PM
Do you know something about the programs in Hong Kong?
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a_mukerjee


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Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:56 AM
Hey there, in Hong Kong you have high density of good MBAs. In fact there are several very good programs, I think the following are even ranked, if I remember right:
The University of Hong Kong (HKU)
HK University of Science and Technology (HKUST)
Chinese University of HK (CUHK)
Hope that helps.
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pat

Joined: 28 Jan 2007
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Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:29 PM
Hello, thanks for that info. Those sound like very good schools. Coming back to my question, do you know anything about composition of classes, is it international, students coming from all over the world?
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iuri

Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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Mon Feb 05, 2007 03:15 PM
Hi,
I think you will have a lot more students from Asian countries and Australia, but it's definitely an international crowd. But no personal experience here.
There are quite a few very good programs represented in the international rankings, it's those programs I mean. As for the others, you might be the only Western student...
Iuri
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pat

Joined: 28 Jan 2007
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Wed Feb 07, 2007 03:53 PM
Thanks a lot! Anyone has done one of those, or another MBA in Asia? I would appreciate some insights.
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raikar_raviraj

Joined: 19 Feb 2007
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Tue Feb 20, 2007 02:58 PM
Well here is list of top B schools in India..

List of top B Schools.
raikar.raviraj.googlepages.com/topmbacolleges
raikar.raviraj.googlepages.com/mbacollege2
raikar.raviraj.googlepages.com/mbacollege3

hope this info benefits you..
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jcohen
Joined: 15 Feb 2007
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Thu Mar 22, 2007 11:48 PM
Hey there, in Hong Kong you have high density of good MBAs. In fact there are several very good programs, I think the following are even ranked, if I remember right:
The University of Hong Kong (HKU)
HK University of Science and Technology (HKUST)
Chinese University of HK (CUHK)
Hope that helps.


Is this ranking in terms of reputation/quality?

1. hku
2. hkust
3. cuhk

How is HKU vs HKUST perceived in HK and Asia?

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copernicus


Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 12:57 AM
Hey there, in Hong Kong you have high density of good MBAs. In fact there are several very good programs, I think the following are even ranked, if I remember right:
The University of Hong Kong (HKU)
HK University of Science and Technology (HKUST)
Chinese University of HK (CUHK)
Hope that helps.


Is this ranking in terms of reputation/quality?

1. hku
2. hkust
3. cuhk

How is HKU vs HKUST perceived in HK and Asia?



HK UST Business School is by far the best MBA from that list, and that is especially true for Finance

These threads talk about the best Asian B-Schools
www.find-mba.com/board/4345
www.find-mba.com/board/4159

[Edited 15 Jun 2007 by copernicus]

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jona


Joined: 11 Mar 2007
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 02:16 PM
Hi, as I understand the three Hong Kong schools can be very attractive for non Asian students (I've read that other thread you mention), and each has certain advantages.

Besides, I have an idea about INSEAD in Singapore.

But I was wondering about other interesting Asian MBAs having comparable international appeal, and attract an international crowd of highly qualified young professionals. That would be a condition for to consider an MBA in Asia, it does not make sense if it is too local.

I am first of all interested by India and Philippines. Who can help?
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Globetraveler

Joined: 26 May 2007
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 02:38 PM
Hi, as I understand the three Hong Kong schools can be very attractive for non Asian students (I've read that other thread you mention), and each has certain advantages.

Besides, I have an idea about INSEAD in Singapore.

But I was wondering about other interesting Asian MBAs having comparable international appeal, and attract an international crowd of highly qualified young professionals. That would be a condition for to consider an MBA in Asia, it does not make sense if it is too local.

I am first of all interested by India and Philippines. Who can help?


Hong Kong UST has been ranked #1 by the Financial Times,
the last 6 years in International Experience Category. This particular school has an exchange component allowing you to study for a semester at other Asian schools, or top US/EU ones, Chicago, Columbia, Berkeley, LBS, HEC, etc
mba.ust.hk/ftmba/prog/exchange.html

CEIBS might be a better known school, but for someone with international outlook it is much better to study in Hong Kong.
So I would say CEIBS is very good for a Chinese expat coming back and wanting to work in mainland China - Shanghai or something like that.

If you look further at Insead-Singapore, you will notice that it is not nearly as good as INSEAD Europe, you will have the diploma but if you are looking for the Asian experience do not go there.
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AnalystNYC

Joined: 26 May 2007
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Sun Jun 03, 2007 03:47 AM
Hi, as I understand the three Hong Kong schools can be very attractive for non Asian students (I've read that other thread you mention), and each has certain advantages.

Besides, I have an idea about INSEAD in Singapore.

But I was wondering about other interesting Asian MBAs having comparable international appeal, and attract an international crowd of highly qualified young professionals. That would be a condition for to consider an MBA in Asia, it does not make sense if it is too local.

I am first of all interested by India and Philippines. Who can help?


Hong Kong UST B-School is your best choice based on what you wrote.
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jona


Joined: 11 Mar 2007
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:01 AM
Thanks for your comments AnalystNYC and globetraveler. What you say about HK BSchools and INSEAD confirms what I've heard before, and read in the different threads on this board.

Still, I'd like to come back to my question above: Who can give me some information about top programs in India and Philippines?
I presume that in both countries BSchools, even the best ones, are not of equal high level as as HKUST. But I'd be keen to get a clearer picture!

Thhanks for your help.
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Globetraveler

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Wed Jun 06, 2007 02:29 PM
Thanks for your comments AnalystNYC and globetraveler. What you say about HK BSchools and INSEAD confirms what I've heard before, and read in the different threads on this board.

Still, I'd like to come back to my question above: Who can give me some information about top programs in India and Philippines?
I presume that in both countries BSchools, even the best ones, are not of equal high level as as HKUST. But I'd be keen to get a clearer picture!

Thhanks for your help.



Indian Institute of Management, Ahmedabad (India)
Indian School of Business (India)

As far as I know they do not offer a regular MBA but a post graduate certificate in Management or something like that. As for the Phillipines I do not know , sorry.

Idea for you, HK UST has an exchange component to it, where you basically choose from top schools all over the world and exchange there for a semester, you could do that and go to India.
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seppoo

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 02:28 AM
one comment about Philippines and India: I did an MBA at HKUST and know students from CEIBS, NUS, Indian MBAs, etc.

Based on my insight Indian MBAs are for Indians only (for now). As a foreigner you are a real outsider. Additionally Indian MBa students tend not to have a lot of work experience.
HKUST in comparison is more international than Columbia in NYC where I did my exchange. In Columbia everything was American, whereas at HKUST you get a true global mindset. UST has an inofficial policy to admit 1/3 Chinese, 1/3 non-Chinese Asians and 1/3 foreigners. And you bet that if you are within the frist two categories you have to be either very intelligent or already have some time abroad from your undergrad or work experience.
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kit

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 07:46 AM
seppoo,
I'm curious -- how would you rate HKUST with CIEBS and NUS in 1) quality of program and 2) job prospects and recruiting? What have the placements been like in your class? Thanks!

[Edited 07 Jun 2007 by kit]

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AnalystNYC

Joined: 26 May 2007
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Thu Jun 07, 2007 05:52 PM
one comment about Philippines and India: I did an MBA at HKUST and know students from CEIBS, NUS, Indian MBAs, etc.

Based on my insight Indian MBAs are for Indians only (for now). As a foreigner you are a real outsider. Additionally Indian MBa students tend not to have a lot of work experience.
HKUST in comparison is more international than Columbia in NYC where I did my exchange. In Columbia everything was American, whereas at HKUST you get a true global mindset. UST has an inofficial policy to admit 1/3 Chinese, 1/3 non-Chinese Asians and 1/3 foreigners. And you bet that if you are within the frist two categories you have to be either very intelligent or already have some time abroad from your undergrad or work experience.


would you say that HK UST has a reputation of being "Columbia Univ" of Asia? I have heard that from many people..
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ArunS

Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 07:55 AM
Hi everyone!
What do you think about the City University of Hong Kong? Is it competitive compared to HKUST and Chinese University?
Thanks, Arun

[Edited 08 Jun 2007 by ArunS]

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seppoo

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 01:01 PM
seppoo,
I'm curious -- how would you rate HKUST with CIEBS and NUS in 1) quality of program and 2) job prospects and recruiting? What have the placements been like in your class? Thanks!



hey i have not too much time, but i would say as follows:

1) if wharton and GBS are a 10, then i rate as follows:
hkust:8
NUS: 5
CIEBS: 1 (ok generous a 2)

2) job prospects is very depending on where you want to work and what industry
CEIBS should only be considered at all if you speak mandarin. without, forget it. additionally it's only for jobs within China, preferably Shanghai. Salaries are not competitive to Europe/US (i.e. I heard from people working for 10,000 RMB a month after graduation, with 30,000 RMB/month you will do very well working in China and coming off the CEIBS program).
NUS: can be considered if you like Asset Management, Wealth Management or Hedge Funds, more and more of them move to Singapore. generally good prospects for graduates IN singapore. i have yet to hear from a NUS graduate finding a job in Hong Kong.
HKUST: good if you like true international banking/investment banking. has everything that Singapore has as well. most regional offices of big companies are in hong kong due to proximity to China but still being international.
of course you can find your dreamjob in every of these locations but it's all about chance and prospects.
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seppoo

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 01:02 PM
one comment about Philippines and India: I did an MBA at HKUST and know students from CEIBS, NUS, Indian MBAs, etc.

Based on my insight Indian MBAs are for Indians only (for now). As a foreigner you are a real outsider. Additionally Indian MBa students tend not to have a lot of work experience.
HKUST in comparison is more international than Columbia in NYC where I did my exchange. In Columbia everything was American, whereas at HKUST you get a true global mindset. UST has an inofficial policy to admit 1/3 Chinese, 1/3 non-Chinese Asians and 1/3 foreigners. And you bet that if you are within the frist two categories you have to be either very intelligent or already have some time abroad from your undergrad or work experience.


would you say that HK UST has a reputation of being "Columbia Univ" of Asia? I have heard that from many people..


I have never heard of it and not sure what ir actually refers to. if anything i would call HKUST the GBS of Asia as GBS has a very clear finance focus to me (CBS has more general management as well). HKUST has its strenght in finance and china business that is for sure though.
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seppoo

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 01:04 PM
Hi everyone!
What do you think about the City University of Hong Kong? Is it competitive compared to HKUST and Chinese University?
Thanks, Arun


an mba program from city university is not even close to CUHK and a mile away from HKUST in terms of student quality and diversity, academic quality, job prospects, etc. if you have a choice, don't consider it.
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copernicus


Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 02:09 PM


hey i have not too much time, but i would say as follows:

1) if wharton and GBS are a 10, then i rate as follows:
hkust:8
NUS: 5
CIEBS: 1 (ok generous a 2)

2) job prospects is very depending on where you want to work and what industry
CEIBS should only be considered at all if you speak mandarin. without, forget it. additionally it's only for jobs within China, preferably Shanghai. Salaries are not competitive to Europe/US (i.e. I heard from people working for 10,000 RMB a month after graduation, with 30,000 RMB/month you will do very well working in China and coming off the CEIBS program).
NUS: can be considered if you like Asset Management, Wealth Management or Hedge Funds, more and more of them move to Singapore. generally good prospects for graduates IN singapore. i have yet to hear from a NUS graduate finding a job in Hong Kong.
HKUST: good if you like true international banking/investment banking. has everything that Singapore has as well. most regional offices of big companies are in hong kong due to proximity to China but still being international.
of course you can find your dreamjob in every of these locations but it's all about chance and prospects.


I agree with CEIBS' description - Totally mainland focused, if you do not speak fluent Mandarin dont go there. Also salaries are ridiculously low coming out of there.

However, I have to disagree with what you wrote about NUS
My primary interest are Hedge Funds/Asset Management, and after careful consideration I have found HK UST to be by far the best school in this field. Latest figures show that Hong Kong has more hedge fund assets under management and growth is quicker than Singapore. When it comes to Long only traditional asset management, its not even a contest, Hong Kong by miles! As for curriculum its not even a contest between HK UST and NUS. NUS has basically one class about "Fund Management" and its run by someone who is working and lets just say that his work schedule conflicts with running the class. There is only one instance to consider NUS for any field and that is its location in Singapore, any English speaking person will feel more comfortable there, but if you are already focusing on Asia your goal should be totally the opposite!

There is not a school in Asia which even comes close to what HK UST offers in the field of Fund/Investment Management, not only do they have all the quant courses if you can handle them, but also all the valuation and accounting classes with Asian Focus. On top of that, the faculty is either Western Educated or Mother tongue English speaking and you can actually understand what they saying. Trust me its an issue with all the other schools!

[Edited 08 Jun 2007 by copernicus]

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copernicus


Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 02:12 PM
one comment about Philippines and India: I did an MBA at HKUST and know students from CEIBS, NUS, Indian MBAs, etc.

Based on my insight Indian MBAs are for Indians only (for now). As a foreigner you are a real outsider. Additionally Indian MBa students tend not to have a lot of work experience.
HKUST in comparison is more international than Columbia in NYC where I did my exchange. In Columbia everything was American, whereas at HKUST you get a true global mindset. UST has an inofficial policy to admit 1/3 Chinese, 1/3 non-Chinese Asians and 1/3 foreigners. And you bet that if you are within the frist two categories you have to be either very intelligent or already have some time abroad from your undergrad or work experience.


would you say that HK UST has a reputation of being "Columbia Univ" of Asia? I have heard that from many people..


I have never heard of it and not sure what ir actually refers to. if anything i would call HKUST the GBS of Asia as GBS has a very clear finance focus to me (CBS has more general management as well). HKUST has its strenght in finance and china business that is for sure though.


What do you mean by GBS?
Chicago GSB, Stanford GSB?

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seppoo

Joined: 06 Jun 2007
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 02:17 PM
with GSB i refer to chicago, sorry

What do you mean by GBS?
Chicago GSB, Stanford GSB?

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