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jaitego


Joined: 19 Nov 2006
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Fri Jun 22, 2007 05:38 PM
Well, let's see what happens. I don't think anyone knows what will happen 50 years from now, and moreover HKUST is still quite an exception in Asia. I think you jump too quickly to conclusions. The only thing I'm certain about is that 50 years from now most of us will be dead or almost :)

[Edited 22 Jun 2007 by jaitego]

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copernicus


Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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Fri Jun 22, 2007 08:12 PM
Well, let's see what happens. I don't think anyone knows what will happen 50 years from now, and moreover HKUST is still quite an exception in Asia. I think you jump too quickly to conclusions. The only thing I'm certain about is that 50 years from now most of us will be dead or almost :)


50 years was in reference to UK vs US. The gap between Asia and US will be closed much quicker, 10-15 years tops.
And besides in case of HK UST they already have dual degrees with Northwestern and NYU, to me thats saying they are almost as good for those schools to have picked them and have their names on diplomas alongside HK USt.

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jaitego


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Fri Jun 22, 2007 08:37 PM
HKUST is still an exception in Asia, as I said.

Then, when you look at history you have to notice that, for the USA, war in Europe played a very important role. US universities benefited from a large number of European (mostly German) scholars that were fleeing Nazism. I don't see many US scholars leaving sunny California or the East coast to go to Shanghai, but we'll see. You may as well look at Japan. Their universities have improved a lot since the war, but there's been no big migration from the US.

[Edited 22 Jun 2007 by jaitego]

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copernicus


Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:22 PM
HKUST is still an exception in Asia, as I said.

Then, when you look at history you have to notice that, for the USA, war in Europe played a very important role. US universities benefited from a large number of European (mostly German) scholars that were fleeing Nazism. I don't see many US scholars leaving sunny California or the East coast to go to Shanghai, but we'll see. You may as well look at Japan. Their universities have improved a lot since the war, but there's been no big migration from the US.


there will be no need for US scholars, as Asia grows in power and spends more $$ on research there will be more and more local scholars teaching, and local top student talent staying "at home" instead of going to the US.

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jaitego


Joined: 19 Nov 2006
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Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:47 PM
I think you're dreaming.

All the top PhD programs are in the US. If Chinese students go to the US to do their PhD, the best ones will stay there. Only the other ones will go back to China. Researchers tend to stay wherever there is a critical mass of researchers, and now this is the US. Do you seriously think it will take China 10 years to build a critical mass of researchers comparable to the US? You must be joking.

After experiencing the research environment in the US and the freedom of life there, the best researchers will stay there. Why would a promising young researcher go back to Shanghai instead of going to Wharton?? Perhaps you forget that China is still a dictatorship, that there is no freedom of expression, that internet is censored, etc, etc. Maybe Hong Kong is an exception.

[Edited 22 Jun 2007 by jaitego]

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copernicus


Joined: 25 Mar 2007
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Sat Jun 23, 2007 01:51 AM
I think you're dreaming.

All the top PhD programs are in the US. If Chinese students go to the US to do their PhD, the best ones will stay there. Only the other ones will go back to China. Researchers tend to stay wherever there is a critical mass of researchers, and now this is the US. Do you seriously think it will take China 10 years to build a critical mass of researchers comparable to the US? You must be joking.

After experiencing the research environment in the US and the freedom of life there, the best researchers will stay there. Why would a promising young researcher go back to Shanghai instead of going to Wharton?? Perhaps you forget that China is still a dictatorship, that there is no freedom of expression, that internet is censored, etc, etc. Maybe Hong Kong is an exception.


Hong Kong and Singapore not mainland China.
Thats the point in 10-15 years top Chinese/local students will NOT need to go to the US for PHDs...because programs in Asia will be as good.


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