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a_mukerjee

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Sat Sep 23, 2006 04:40 PM
Hello,
I work in India and was thinking about doing an MBA. But until now I have never considered going to Europe to study because I had the feeling that an MBA from the US is always a better choice, in terms of international reputation, and especially reputation in Asian business world.
Am I wrong here? Who can help me there? Someone with a European MBA has good experience in terms of job possibilities in in Asia?
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Kate_hk
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Wed Sep 27, 2006 05:15 PM
I have very good experience with the German MBA I did. But I work in Hong Kong, I don't know how far you can transpose that to India.
kate
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a_mukerjee

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Thu Sep 28, 2006 03:54 PM
I am not so sure, Hong Kong business world is certainly different from India.

But depends on the sectore I would say, in finance where I work it must be similar all over Asia. What field you work in?
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Kate_hk
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Mon Oct 02, 2006 03:04 PM
My company works in the field of international investment. But a German MBA will be very helpful in HK and China for ingeneers - in technological sector, car industry and so on
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a_mukerjee

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Fri Oct 06, 2006 08:34 AM
I work in the finance sector too, currently I am working in a bank in India. The MBA I am looking for should enable me to integrate a job in a better position in the banking sector in India.
It still might sound better to have a MBA degree from the US, no?
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chili
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 02:44 PM
Hello,
I don't know the Asian perspective of course (I am Canadian), but IU really think for you an MBA either European or North America will enable you to achieve you professional goals, if you chose a good one.
You should decide more in terms of what cultural experience, and maybe additional language you would like to get. That is my opinion!
Pablo
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Mindmaker
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Tue Oct 17, 2006 07:28 PM
Listen, come do your MBA here, Canada, Europe or USA and when you graduate, work here. There is too much nepotism in India. I found during my visit that the only people who have an objective career path, not influenced by relatives are in the technical field, For example you will be fine in India if you specialize for your MBA in say, Financial Investment or other technical channels where results are quantifiable. But just becoming something like ageneral manager, forget it. You are better off here in the USA at least then the Indians stop looking at you as Hindu or Gujirati, you are for the most part Indian, and they will hire you. Indians here in the USA in high positions are shameless about hiring their own. So why not, come and join the team, beside you are the most beautiful Indian I have ever seen. In America that translates into good honest bucks, as well. I can see you working on CNN in Atlanta, with looks like that, I don't think you need an MBA. But then again, I know how hard it is to supress a super mind, so I know you will not be swayed even by your own looks. Good luck.
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Post MBA

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Wed May 30, 2007 02:02 PM
Top North American business schools offer a globally recognized brand. You are wise to consider the relative value of the geographical element of the brand. European schools are simply not as well known outside of their own neighborhood.

If you choose to go outside of North America for your MBA look for strong links back to leading North American schools - particularly at the Professor level.

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Hello,
I work in India and was thinking about doing an MBA. But until now I have never considered going to Europe to study because I had the feeling that an MBA from the US is always a better choice, in terms of international reputation, and especially reputation in Asian business world.
Am I wrong here? Who can help me there? Someone with a European MBA has good experience in terms of job possibilities in in Asia?

[Edited by Post MBA on 28 Jun 2007]
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Globetraveler
Joined: 26 May 2007
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Wed May 30, 2007 05:36 PM
Hello,
I work in India and was thinking about doing an MBA. But until now I have never considered going to Europe to study because I had the feeling that an MBA from the US is always a better choice, in terms of international reputation, and especially reputation in Asian business world.
Am I wrong here? Who can help me there? Someone with a European MBA has good experience in terms of job possibilities in in Asia?


Why would you want to do an MBA in Europe? US, maybe..
Asia and its business school are going to take over in 10-20 years, getting into them at that time will be nearly impossible.
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a_mukerjee

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Fri Jun 01, 2007 01:45 PM
Hi,
this is Attiya. In your mail above you quoted my first question on this board.
As I have been posting quite a lot, and people were really helpful giving me some good advice and info regarding my questions, I have a clearer picture of the situation now.

If you want to an MBA preparing well for the Asian job market, an Asian or US degree is best, I agree with you. But I think if you intend to work in a European based company, there are many advantages in doing your MBA in a European Bschool. What is your opinion?

[Edited by a_mukerjee on 01 Jun 2007]
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SingleSpain
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Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:18 AM
Considering the globalization of all business /companies, you should look more and more for a brand with global presitge rather than localization. Asian schools still lacks of these presitge.
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a_mukerjee

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Thu Jul 05, 2007 04:32 PM
Asian don't have that same prestige as US schools, I agree. That's a question of time I would say.

What I was referring to are other aspects, besides prestige, such as networking. If one indends to work in an Hong Kong based company, it is a good step to do an MBA in one of the internationally renowned Hong Kong business schools. During the studies there will enough time to create links to the local business world and make the necessary contacts for th future career.
Brand is not everything, in such a case other factors have priority I think.

[Edited by a_mukerjee on 05 Jul 2007]
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SingleSpain
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Fri Jul 06, 2007 08:33 AM
You may work in the HK based company today and tomorrow in a US or Japan company, and after tomorrow for a UK company. This is not relevant.

Nevertheless, local contacts are of course important. So let's say that you fall in love to a lucky chinese and you plan to live there, so an MBA there could be a good idea. But, my opinion is that I would prefere other options (top 10 US or Europe).... a safer bet.

And yes.. brand is everthing ;.)
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a_mukerjee

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Sat Jul 07, 2007 06:06 PM
..and sometimes a brand is misleading... look at all the discussion about INSEAD in Singapore. The general message is that in this case brand is shallow and quality of program does not keep at all the promises the brand gives.

(BTW, I can't give any personal judgment on this program, I was just referring to the posts on INSEAD on this board, which might be very subjective).

[Edited by a_mukerjee on 07 Jul 2007]
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Cheng
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Sat Oct 27, 2007 03:09 PM
..and sometimes a brand is misleading... look at all the discussion about INSEAD in Singapore. The general message is that in this case brand is shallow and quality of program does not keep at all the promises the brand gives.

(BTW, I can't give any personal judgment on this program, I was just referring to the posts on INSEAD on this board, which might be very subjective).



Don't worry about most comments here in this forum about INSEAD. They are plainly wrong in most cases. I suggest you check other MBA forums as well to get a better idea, e.g. which-mba.com or Forbes, Businessweek.
Rankings can be complete nonsense, e.g. WSJ 2006 ranking made INSEAD just beat the Management school of Costa Rica & Nicaragua. Look at the losers at ranking 17 and 18, which are Harvard and Stanford.
I think you get the idea: rankings are mostly crap.
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vasilijs
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Sun Oct 28, 2007 04:00 AM
Cheng, I won't reassure you, but Harvard's and Stanford's 17th and 18th position may not be that wrong. Looking for the MBA programme for me myself, I talked to two professors from Harvard MBA. Independently, both professors told me "keep as far away from Harvard as you can - there is nothing left apart from brand". I also had a chance to talk to some people graduated from Stanford MBA - and I was not impressed. Look at Economist Intellegence Unit ranking 2007 - Harvard is only N13. I also have read quite a number of comments done by employers who say that they prefer to hire from the schools which are not in world top10 because many students in top10 schools are thinking more about becoming billioners in five years rather than about work itself. By the way, not all INSEAD students leave good impression as well - I had interaction with a dozen of them (alive, not online), and half of this dozen were quite unpleasant guys with too high self-esteem, little competency, and closed mind. The other half, in contrast, were great guys.

BUT WHAT I DEFINETELY AGREE WITH YOU, rankings are not that important. When chosing the school, I used rankings only to form the list of schools to research further. If the school is consistantly ranked, it is worth consideration regardless to its place in a particular ranking.

AND WHAT I AGREE WITH YOU EVEN FURTHER, check other forums and talk to the people in the school before make a decision. Use all information you can gather. This particular forum or that particular ranking may have been too harsh or too unfair for one school and too good for another school, but bad feedback should never be ignored completely.
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LP

Joined: 19 Nov 2006
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Sun Oct 28, 2007 09:48 PM
I think the views of employers about MBA graduates also depend upon employers' expectations. For example, in Europe employers are generally less inclined than US employers to hire MBA graduates for top managerial jobs. There's a greater number of companies in Europe which simply do not consider the possibility of hiring MBAs to fill top-level vacancies because they prefer to promote their own employees. This type of companies get to interview MBA graduates and find that their expectations are "too high". Sometimes this is true, but sometimes the problem is those employers don't have any openings specific to MBA graduates, and MBA graduates who have invested so much time, money and effort in their degree get frustrated.

[Edited by LP on 28 Oct 2007]
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reems
Joined: 03 Feb 2008
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 08:59 AM
Hi .. I have 3 years finance experience (Not managerial) but as a team member. I was contemplating between doing an MBA or MSC program in international management and whether to do it from USA or UK . Considering the Recession phaze in USA. Could you please let me know your views on the same.
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stuart
Joined: 04 Feb 2008
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Tue Feb 05, 2008 08:23 PM
Europe is a great place for an MBA..
It is not just education but an experience!

Also Europe is more stable an economic unit so u should have decent job prospects.

and Europe if on ur Radar u must also seriously consider Swiss MBAs.. i'm currently at the University of St. Gallen's MBA.

The official website is www.mba.unisg.ch

while the inside scoop is on my blog

mbahsg.wordpress.com
mba-hsg.blogspot.com

and i'll be happy to help prospective MBAs with their appns .. irrespective of the school u r applying too.
cheers!
Stuart

[Edited by stuart on 05 Feb 2008]
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reems
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Fri Feb 08, 2008 09:17 AM
Hi stuart... i visited the below websites but unfortunately.. None of the minimum Gmat requirement is 650 and i have got 540 but however i am planning to retake gmat again. So i am thinking of applying to schools which do not require gmat or accept gmat scores. I have 3 years of work experience with with Blue chip companies but at entry level.. Hence was contemplating between doing an MSC or MBA also keeping the employment prospects in mind
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SingleSpain
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Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:29 AM
Reems,
Repeat your GMAT. Many people reach +650 by repeating 3 or more times, but with 620+ you may also apply to many schools.
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stuart
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Fri Feb 08, 2008 01:58 PM
Dear Reems,
An MBA will open many more doors for you compared to an MSc.
Try retaking the GMAT and parallely apply to various institutions.

Strathclyde Business School (FT 2008 rank #30) doesn't require GMAT.
Also the international MBA at Manchester doesn't require a GMAT. This is not Manchester's flagship MBA program, but a different 1 year International MBA.

hope this helps,
stuart
Hi stuart... i visited the below websites but unfortunately.. None of the minimum Gmat requirement is 650 and i have got 540 but however i am planning to retake gmat again. So i am thinking of applying to schools which do not require gmat or accept gmat scores. I have 3 years of work experience with with Blue chip companies but at entry level.. Hence was contemplating between doing an MSC or MBA also keeping the employment prospects in mind
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reems
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Fri Feb 08, 2008 02:51 PM
hi stuart.. thanks for your continous support. Well i did apply to many good uk colleges Like nottingham, durham, edinburg and lancaster. But have got rejects from all of them. Stating that i lack managerial experience. Though i do have 3 years experience but at entry level at blue chip companies like JP Morgan and Crisil. Hence i thought of doing an MSC and reappearing for GMAT.
I could email you my resume if you could provide me with your email address.. or you could send me a test mail at chelsia2005@gmail.com. for further reference.

Please advice me on the further course of action from your perspective and experience.

Really gratefull for all the guidance and help
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stuart
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Fri Feb 08, 2008 07:30 PM
Dear Reems,
there is some issue with the email id u gave. I got a message that this id does not exist.
u can mail me at :
stuart.mba(at)gmail.com
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anarivas
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Sun Feb 10, 2008 01:09 AM
i am looking for a good MBA in Hospitality management in Europe, I have a degree in T&H management from Endicott college and five years of work experience, two of which at manger level at five star hotel. Can some one give me a good advice here?
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