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Saka

Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 9
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Thu Apr 05, 2007 02:22 PM
Hi Laurent

I forgot to answer your question.

I haven't finalized yet. I want to remain in the technology sector with focus on international management.
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laurentGRAILLE

Joined: 25 Aug 2006
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 05:04 PM
Hello Saka,
ItS true that the Grenoble Graduate School of Business is perfect for your needs, a part time MBA with concentrations in both of your fields of interest. There are probably not many other part time MBAs in France combining the 2 fields, I don't know about any other.

Maybe you can have a look at ESC Rouen and Lilles which are listed in the FT euro ranking too. But I can't give you any evaluation, I don't know those.

Why do you favour French speaking Europe? Do you speak French? Would you want to study in French or English?
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Saka

Joined: 30 Mar 2007
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Fri Apr 06, 2007 05:35 PM
Hi Laurent

I want to study and work in a non English speaking country now that I worked in the US for over 6 years, after my 2 years of MS here.

I know a little bit of French, not a lot but just the basics. So I prefer France or the French speaking part of Switzerland. Of course the schools have to be good and also be affordable for me. I will pursue a progam in English.

Also I have to apply for a student visa to study either in France or in Switzerland as I am not a EU resident. Do you know if I can study part-time with a student visa. Here in the US, it is not possible as student visa requires enrollment in a full-time program.

Thank you.

[Edited 06 Apr 2007 by Saka]

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iuri

Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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Tue Apr 10, 2007 02:13 PM
Hello Saka,
Did you have a look in French speaking Belgium? I know there are only very few MBAs, but maybe something for you?

About the visa question, concerning EU I'm quite sure that you can also get a student visa if you don't study full time, like if you do evening studies. But let me check that, there must me a minimum number of hours. I'll come back to you.
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Saka

Joined: 30 Mar 2007
Posts: 9
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Tue Apr 10, 2007 07:30 PM
Hi Iuri

Thanks for the favour, I appreciate it.

I did not look at any programs outside France and Switzerland. To be honest, I was unware that French is spoken in Belgium as well.

I wanted to talk to the university folks directly to get information about student visa limitations.

These are the ones that I am seriously considering, in order:
1. EM Lyon
2. Grenoble
3. SBS
4. HEC Luasanne

The tution costs are a major factor in my selection as I will be funding it out of my savings.

Thank you.
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york

Joined: 22 Jul 2006
Posts: 71
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Tue Apr 10, 2007 07:47 PM
1. Grenoble:

Year program was founded 1995
Business school accreditation:
AACSB
AMBA
EQUIS
Conference des Grandes Ecoles and the Chapitre des Ecoles de Management

Enrollment
Total graduate business students 2,000
Full-time MBA students 30
Part-time MBA students 96

2. E.M. Lyon

Year program was founded 1972
Institution is private
Business school accreditation:
AMBA
EQUIS

Enrollment
Total graduate business students 2,053
Full-time MBA students 54
Executive MBA students 35

--- Data from businessweek ---

[Edited 10 Apr 2007 by york]

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JamieO

Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Posts: 22
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 10:11 AM
Hello Saka,

Why do you favour French speaking Europe? Do you speak French? Would you want to study in French or English?


I agree - unless you actually speak (or want to learn) French. If you want to focus on employment in France after you graduate then it would make sense, but I thought the suggestions at beginning of this thread were really good. Both IMD and St. Gallen seem to have really good industry links throughout Europe. Also the job market in Zurich is really bouyant so it might be a good time to get an MBA from an institution with good links to the region.

Not sure about SBS though... can't find anything to show that it would be a good investment, or that it would be good to have on your CV.
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Saka

Joined: 30 Mar 2007
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Wed Jun 06, 2007 04:26 PM
Jamie -

Thanks for your input.

I speak limited French and I do have a desire to improve my French. Which was the reason why I was thinking of the area. I have been in English speaking part of the world (US) for a while and wanted to try other regions. As I know a bit of French already, the logical choice for me was France and the French speaking part of Switzerland. My desire is to be in the region and work for about 10 years. After which may be move somewhere else, perhaps South America :-).

I agree with you, St. Gallen and IMB are top notch. The cost of the programs at these two universities is too much for me. I am looking at programs that are at the most EUR 25000. I am learning German currently. Hence SBS, which is in the German speaking area of Swtizerland, would work too.

What I am still unable to figure are:
1. What are the options to work while studying - part time job, full time job, off campus job, etc.?
2. Can I get a student visa if I want to study only part time, as I want to find a full time job?

Once again thanks for the information you provided.

Good luck.
Saka.
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JamieO

Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Posts: 22
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:09 PM
Hi Saka,

I've been looking at MBAs in the same area as well. I was really impressed with IMD and St. Gallen, but the price tag was pretty hefty. I had a look at a few other options inside Switzerland, but the only satisfactory one at a recognised institution was at the Universtiy of Geneva. From what I remember it was about 25,000 Euros.

As for the permit, I understood that a permit for an EU citizen was difficult if you are part-time, and impossible if you are non-EU. I think I read somewhere that by EU they also mean only the old EU 15 countries.

The MBAs I spoke to all gave a similar answer on part time work: If you are doing a full time MBA, part time work is possible, but the schedule is designed to put you under pressure for a year. If you work, your studies could suffer. Plus, my intention for an MBA is to spend as much time as possible with the careers service and building link with guest speakers etc. to get as well placed as possible for an internship/job.

There are some perks in IMD and St. Gallen in there loan programmes. Both seem to have agreements with local banks to provide loans of 60,000 Francs. IMD provide for a small number, and St. Gallen provide for the majority of the class.

The admissions office in St. Gallen also told me that they offer free language classes in a few different european languages as part of the course... - still, no point going to the German end to learn French though!!!

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Saka

Joined: 30 Mar 2007
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Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:48 PM
Jamie -

About University of Geneva, I remember reading that they have limited specializations. And all geared towards the non profit sector. Which was the reason I didn't put that on my list.

About the permit, I was almost sure about what you said. And now you confirmed it. I was also under the impression that one needs to be enrolled in a full time program to get a student visa.

It is the same here in the US as well, enrollment in a full time program is required for student visa. Along with that, one should maintain a GPA of at least 3.0 and not have more than 3 grades C or below. On top of this, work is permitted only on campus.

But I will need the part time job as that will pay my bills. I have savings but just enough to cover the tution and some unplanned expenses. For rent and everything else, I was thinking that my part time work will address it. Having done that, pursuing an MS full time and working part time at the same time here in US, I might be able to manage it again.

I prefer not to take any loans at all. It is my last option. Though IMD and St. Gallen might be worth the money, I think I will stay away from them. Also learning a second language is mandatory for most colleges. The program will be in English but you need to sign up for a foreign language anyway. That was what I heard in an MBA open house.

It is an excellent idea to work with the career services for placements after graduation. I don't know how easy it is get a work visa in the country.

We will see how it works out.

Thanks for your information, it was really helpful.
Saka.
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sirisha16

Joined: 14 Oct 2007
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Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:27 PM
HI,
this is Sirisha. I want to pursue My Full time MBA (I dont have any work experience) in Any B-school in and around Zurich.They can be in Basel, Bern, Zug, Zurich.Because we are going to stay in Olten.
I dont have time . So can You please send me list of good schools in and around Zurich Within 2 days?
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joergalbers


Joined: 08 Sep 2006
Posts: 33
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Wed Oct 17, 2007 06:19 PM
Hello Shrisha,

You may do a first research about schools in Switzerland on any MBA info website, on this site of FIND MBA the link is:
www.find-mba.com/switzerland

Go through the list of schools in the region you favour, then you'll have a clearer picture. On the websites of each schools you'll find admission criteria such as work esperience or not.

Besides, please note that this is a public forum, we are all private people posting here, because we like to share information and being up-dated regarding MBA programs. You have to understand that it is not an information service or anything like that, and you can't "order" information lists in 2 days....

[Edited 17 Oct 2007 by joergalbers]

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LaVoz de Galicia


Joined: 13 Dec 2005
Posts: 154
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Tue Dec 18, 2007 07:50 PM
Have you seen this article about MBA programs in Switzerland:

www.find-mba.com/article/199/find-mba-focus-on-stu…
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