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shashank

Joined: 03 May 2007
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Fri May 04, 2007 01:30 PM
Thank u so much. i also have another question which university do i join for mba in finance
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tuvia

Joined: 10 May 2007
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Sat May 12, 2007 01:54 AM
i cant seem to open their web the u of cape town's webpage. can someone tell me what is the tuition price there?
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jona


Joined: 11 Mar 2007
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Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:51 AM
Hi Tuvia,
no problems here to open that site... here the info about tuition (all per year):
>>Masters in Business Administration - Modular, MBA Mod - US$26 000
>>Executive Masters in Business Administration (Foreign), EMBA - US$24 000

Found it at www.gsb.uct.ac.za/gsbwebb/default.asp?intpagenr=64…
it's the tuition of 2007, they did not publish the 2008 one until now.
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tuvia

Joined: 10 May 2007
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Wed Jun 20, 2007 01:31 AM
thank you jona- i was able to open it. it looks like a very interesting option for study.
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vasilijs

Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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Fri Oct 26, 2007 04:08 AM
I myself was thinking about both South African and Australian programmes. If you are thinking about MBA in Australia versus MBA in South Africa, my advice would be to go for Australia - AGSM or MBS.

South African schools. The problem with these schools in FT ranking is that similarly to CEIBS they report their salary in ppp rather than in absolute term. I simply cannot believe that a four-year-old MBA from a South African school gets US$160k a year as per FT ranking. That was an immediate turn-off for me, since salary is 20% of FT ranking, and, therefore, the school which reports salaries in ppp and is ranked in the bottom part of FT100 may fall out of the ranking completely if FT changes the policy. I assume, we all more or less agree that apart from the fact how good the programme is, we all look for some kind of a brand we want the school to have. And for me the brand of any South African MBA school is far lower than the brand of any Chinese school - even the brand of South Africa is lower than the brand of China. Therefore, I dropped this idea completely, without doing more research on this. It is simply too risky for me.

The Australian schools - I sincerely recommend to take a look on them. I was short on money, and therefore did not really considered them - MBA in a good Australian school costs about 20% more than MBA in Hong Kong. But Australian Graduate School of Management easily may have been my choice. Melbourne Graduate School of Business could have been my choice either. These schools are internationally recognized, long time in rankings, plus Australia is a good brand for education. If I had more money, I would probably end up in Australian Graduate School of Management rather than in HKUST. And if I did this, I would regret about this now (after doing more research and seeing how the things turned out) since HKUST has much more potential to grow than AGSM. In fact, I am happy that I did not go to AGSM and enrolled in HKUST. But this is for me - for somebody else it may be the other way around since generally speaking AGSM, MBS and HKUST are more or less in the same pool globally. AGSM is a mature and well-established programme, so that if you are looking for an MBA programme outside of Harvard-Wharton-INSEAD-... frames, AGSM and Melbourne are definetely to be considered in the first tier of the remaining schools. AGSM is a strong programme and a good brand. Melbourne is a bit less prestigious, but quite comparable. Just one note - Australian MBA programmes want mature people. If you are 25 year old, this is not for you. If you are 30 year old, this may be still too early for you. If you are 35 year old, this is what AGSM and MBS target for.

Again, I may be mistaken, but this is my impression. I did not apply to any of these schools, I did not do the interviews there, and I did not work with the graduates. These are purely the results of my theoretical research on both South African and Australian schools. I did this research for myself when I was looking for a course. I hope it helps...
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henkheath

Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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Fri Oct 26, 2007 07:43 AM
What concerns you about the US$160K, too little, or too high, give me your expectation. Believe me when I tell you that I left my US$220K job, because I was able to Nett little more than US$42k in 5 weeks, and I will only complete my MBA through the University of the North West in 10 days 4 hours and 6 minutes and counting. When I started my MBA 3 years ago i was earning US$20K in a franchise group with more than 160 outlets nationally, I have been headhunted 3 times and have now left to pursue my own dreams.
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vasilijs

Joined: 21 Mar 2007
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Fri Oct 26, 2007 03:35 PM
I am really glad for you.

What concerns me about US$160k is that South African schools refer this number as AVERAGE salary of the graduates. Harvard and other top schools refer less than that. But I may be wrong, don't take me too seriously.
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pravsr

Joined: 08 May 2008
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Fri May 09, 2008 10:28 AM
I sincerely feel that you can take a look at the Indian School of Business which was rated #20 by Financial Times. The school has a 1 year MBA with good placements all over the world. isb.edu/isb/index.shtml
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lukeh
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
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Sat May 10, 2008 06:18 PM
I sincerely feel that the ISB is located in Hyderabad. Which - in all sincerity - is in neither South Africa nor Australia. Take a look.
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bcrfan

Joined: 01 Sep 2008
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Tue Sep 02, 2008 02:54 AM
went to UCT GSB for an exchange, all I have to say is that the course is very work heavy, with less time spent on theory or application of it. It's very "academic" instead of using a lot of the newer educational techniques that you can see in the top tier b-schools.

Regardless, the quality of students was for the most part quite good, and my only complaints come from the way the programme was executed. Oh, and the administration is a complete disaster, and I would be wary of the schools reputation outside of the continent.
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dpsberlijn

Joined: 04 Sep 2008
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Fri Sep 05, 2008 02:33 PM
Hi Nestor, Henk, Jona,

Not sure if you all still read these posts, but just wanted to let you know that I read all the articles with great interest. I am heading to South Africa (Pretoria) in January because my girlfriend got a job there. As I had been thinking about doing my MBA for a while (applied to IESE, but my GMAT was considered too low at 640...doh!) I decided now to do my MBA is South Africa.

As I will not be working on the side I am looking for a fulltime program in either Jo'burg or Pretoria. I checked out GIBS but apparently they do their courses from Thursday to Sunday, so that one drops off. I noticed that Wits was not mentioned a lot above. As you can see on the ARWU website, apparently it is ranked rather high as a Uni though its MBA program doesn't seem ranked anywhere by the economist, FT or Forbes.

I have asked their administration now to send me more info regarding the students and their background as I have been able to find anyone on either Linkedin or Facebook.

If anybody has any experience/opinion on Wits, please do let me know.

Regards,

Dick
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henkheath

Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:45 AM
Hi Dick

Is there any specific reason that you are looking into a Full-time MBA? GIBS does offer a part-time MBA as well, and of course there is UNISA as well in Pretoria. I did mine through North West University (150Km from Pretoria), a part time MBA over 3 years in which you have contact sessions every 2nd week on a Saturday from 8am till 1 pm. I found this suited my working hours, and allowed me to have some family life as well. I am not a CUM LAUDE student, but, and I have found some of my counterpart whom have MBA's from other institutions to be somewhat dense. NWU focuses on practical application of your MBA, and not just on how to get a better paycheck.
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dpsberlijn

Joined: 04 Sep 2008
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Sat Sep 06, 2008 01:04 PM
Hi Henk,

First of all thanks for your swift reply. The reason I am heading to SA is because my girlfriend got a job there on a 2 year contract, starting January 2009. Therefor my time in SA is limited. As I am a Dutch citizen, I can not work in SA (or only in a very specific case) so I will have all the time in the world but for 2 years only.

As I will be living in Pretoria, I thought Wits would be good to attend. Just now I heard though that heading into Jo'burg in the morning from Pretoria is absolute hell. Somebody told me that the 50-60km stretch can take 2 hours, easy.

So I am actually considering GIBS and UNISA as well.

What is the name/reputation of these 3 schools in SA?
Regards,

Dick
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henkheath

Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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Sun Sep 07, 2008 07:29 AM
Hello Dick

Unisa (Pretoria) has both an MBA as well as MBL.
Gibs, Wits are fine institutions, but I have not studies through the. I studied through University of Pretoria and the North West University.
UJ (University of Johannesburg - Previously Rand Afrikaanse Universiteit (RAU) ) can also offer you an MBA, it is right next to Wits and they combined about 2 years ago to become UJ.

You need not worry about the standards of the MBA / MBA in south Africa as long as you attend an Accredited institution. They are audited and accredited o a yearly basis. There was a time about 5 years ago when ever tom dick and harry offered an MBA or a 24 hour MBA, but these educational practices were stopped dead in their tracks.

Where to find;
UNISA - 25o 46' 01'' S 28o 11' 57'' E
UJ - 26o 11' 28'' S 28o 01' 42'' E
UP - 25o 45' 14'' S 28o 13' 44'' E
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lukeh
Joined: 24 Oct 2007
Posts: 387
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Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:57 AM
Map coordinates! Great! It's like an MBA treasure hunt. I think all B-schools should introduce some kind of Indiana Jones-style adventure/Manhunt element into their applications procedure. Maybe Ray Winston could get involved. Or, failing that, Alec Baldwin.
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Sheltonh

Joined: 02 Oct 2008
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Fri Oct 03, 2008 03:24 PM
I have just read this thread and the posts done here about South African MBA's . i find it odd that claims have been made that UNW is the best MBA school in South Africa even though its not known at all in the country.
The top business school with international accreditation is UCT GSB,Wits Business School,Stellenbosch GSB and then the rest .
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gautammishra8

Joined: 02 Oct 2008
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Fri Oct 03, 2008 06:26 PM
is any body from India joining UCT GSB MBA 2009?
I would be joining this batch..in case some one is there from india..please contact me on 919820658753.
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gadget

Joined: 03 Nov 2008
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Tue Nov 04, 2008 06:55 AM
Agreed, in SA UCT, Wits and Stellenbosch is tops. UCT is the only school with a FT top 100 ranking (71st).

This website lists UCT business school as based in Rondebosch, but it is actually based in the Cape Town Waterfront - arguably the top tourist destination in Cape Town.

I'm hoping to get into the Modular program 2009 intake...
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11023546

Joined: 05 Nov 2008
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Thu Nov 06, 2008 01:49 PM
Stellenbosch is among the best. Please have a look st:

www.usb.sun.ac.za/usb/mba/mba_overview.asp

The USB has two international accreditations - EQUIS from the European Foundation for Management Development and AMBA from the Association of MBAs. It is also fully accredited by the South African Council on Higher Education (CHE). In addition, the USB is the only school outside Europe which is a member of the European Doctoral Programmes Association in Management and Business Administration (EDAMBA).

The USB is a member of the USA-based Association to Advance Collegiate Schools of Business (AACSB), of the Belgian-based European Foundation for Management Development (EFMD), of the South African Business Schools Association (SABSA), and of the Association of African Business Schools (AABS).

Lists and ratings

The Aspen Institute, USA, has ranked the USB on its Beyond Grey Pinstripes Top Global 100 Schools list in 2007 for promoting social and environmental sustainability in its curricula and research.

The USB is one of the first 100 business schools and universities from around the world that has endorsed the Principles for Responsible Management Education (PRME), a UN-backed global initiative developed to promote corporate responsibility and sustainability in business education (2008).

The USB is also one of only two African business schools with an A-rating for "universal business schools with major international influence" in the French EDUNIVERSAL Official Selection (2008).

Current Matie
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Bally

Joined: 03 Mar 2009
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 07:43 AM
Alright im learning, im only 25 yrs and just started my Diploma in marketing. Took me a while to know which path to take but im on it now and loving it.
I did my research well still in progress and i came across IMM, I always see it on the job ads as a preffered school so i thought ill do my BBAM and then my MBA but after reading these posts i guess i still need to do more research on this.

Im still young and its a good feeling to interact with people who are already there, where I wanna be.

So which institute should I go to?

I will also research going overseas to study
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Malia

Joined: 24 Sep 2006
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Wed Mar 04, 2009 10:17 PM
What's IMM?
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Magnet

Joined: 22 Oct 2009
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Fri Oct 23, 2009 09:44 AM
Hi,

I've got a friend at AGSM (Sydney), he really likes it, he even promotes it and writes articles about what it's 'really like' to study there for this magazine.

I'm probably going to visit UCT next February while I'm in Cape Town on holiday. I think that location IS really important when you come to choose your MBA.

A good location with plenty of distractions will keep you healthy and living in the real world and you'll probably work harder and do better as a result. I'm not suggesting you plan you're MBA based purely around the beaches, but I'm just saying it's got to help. I've got enough friends who's networks and circles have been depleted by their obsessiveness about their MBA course which has got to be counterproductive. When you're doing long days, late nights etc. you've got to have SOMEWHERE to go to get away and take your mind off things and chill!

[Edited by link updater on 04 Dec 2009]
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Magnet

Joined: 22 Oct 2009
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Fri Oct 23, 2009 09:48 AM
What's IMM?


www.imm.co.za/

"IMM Graduate School of Marketing", business school based in Jo'burg I guess although I'm not sure what IMM actually stands for!
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tyty

Joined: 20 Nov 2009
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somebody help
Sat Nov 21, 2009 07:17 PM
am 23 without a working experience i need to enrol for my MBA in south africa or australia. a school, tution and resumption date. cheers
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