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mbaconsultant

Joined: 28 Jun 2007
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INSEAD Singapore
Fri Jun 29, 2007 01:08 PM
I think the INSEAD bashers are way off base. Take advice from these bashers with caution.
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Globetraveler

Joined: 26 May 2007
Posts: 60
INSEAD Singapore
Fri Jun 29, 2007 02:03 PM
I think the INSEAD bashers are way off base. Take advice from these bashers with caution.


everybody needs to their own research.

take a trip to singapore and visit that Insead campus, perhaps the reality will sink in, and you will not waste money applying there.
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MBAsurvivor

Joined: 14 Jul 2007
Posts: 4
INSEAD Singapore
Sun Jul 15, 2007 01:46 PM
I have heard similar comments about INSEAD in Singapore before. If it is the Asia experience you are after, you would be better off trying a leading Asia business school instead in Hong Kong for example. There are several that have excellent industry links and strong programmes.

If it is specifically Singapore you are interested in, I would say that both NUS and NTU are better choices than INSEAD.
If you want to mix the Asian/European experiences, NUS have an exchange programme for the MBA with ESSEC, IE, ESADE, HEC and St. Gallen. NTU on the other hand offer a Double MBA programme with both ESSEC and St. Gallen.

Personally, I wouldn't go for INSEAD just for the name...


To be honest, I am not sure if there is viral marketing here in this thread by some university administrators.
Most comments esp. against INSEAD are totally off the thruth. I have studied at US schools (Columbia, Wharton) and later went for business to INSEAD. The Singapore campus is brand-new and still under development. Fontainebleau is pretty large and top-gorgeous. Students and professors switch campuses regularly (they have to!). Courses are equal. There are INSEAD facilities in Silicon Valley, China, Israel and Abu Dhabi, from where you get research input as well. Professors are identical to top 10 business schools (they rotate as well). Courses are almost identical to eg. Harvard and Columbia. However the student body is somewhat older and much more experienced. GMAT is currently around 710-750. If you are just checking brochures and some bizarre statistics from "Economist" then please do not apply to INSEAD. You will never make it anyway, because you also would compare a Chinese Ssangyong (whatever) car with a Mercedes or Ferrari and go for your Chinese car for all its great feature list in the brochure. Hongkong is a major destination of all Asian interested INSEAD students. Most of them end up at banks such as Goldman, HSBC, Morgan Stanley, etc. Recruiting, however, is largely based on the French campus. The Singapore campus is viewed by some students as the "Club Med" after 6months of hellish 100h work weeks in Fontainebleau. Well, not really "Club Med"... but you only study/work 80h a week. Which is a relief and a chance to get away to Bali on the weekend.
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kit

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 12
INSEAD Singapore
Mon Jul 16, 2007 05:42 PM
I have heard similar comments about INSEAD in Singapore before. If it is the Asia experience you are after, you would be better off trying a leading Asia business school instead in Hong Kong for example. There are several that have excellent industry links and strong programmes.

If it is specifically Singapore you are interested in, I would say that both NUS and NTU are better choices than INSEAD.
If you want to mix the Asian/European experiences, NUS have an exchange programme for the MBA with ESSEC, IE, ESADE, HEC and St. Gallen. NTU on the other hand offer a Double MBA programme with both ESSEC and St. Gallen.

Personally, I wouldn't go for INSEAD just for the name...


To be honest, I am not sure if there is viral marketing here in this thread by some university administrators.
Most comments esp. against INSEAD are totally off the thruth. I have studied at US schools (Columbia, Wharton) and later went for business to INSEAD. The Singapore campus is brand-new and still under development. Fontainebleau is pretty large and top-gorgeous. Students and professors switch campuses regularly (they have to!). Courses are equal. There are INSEAD facilities in Silicon Valley, China, Israel and Abu Dhabi, from where you get research input as well. Professors are identical to top 10 business schools (they rotate as well). Courses are almost identical to eg. Harvard and Columbia. However the student body is somewhat older and much more experienced. GMAT is currently around 710-750. If you are just checking brochures and some bizarre statistics from "Economist" then please do not apply to INSEAD. You will never make it anyway, because you also would compare a Chinese Ssangyong (whatever) car with a Mercedes or Ferrari and go for your Chinese car for all its great feature list in the brochure. Hongkong is a major destination of all Asian interested INSEAD students. Most of them end up at banks such as Goldman, HSBC, Morgan Stanley, etc. Recruiting, however, is largely based on the French campus. The Singapore campus is viewed by some students as the "Club Med" after 6months of hellish 100h work weeks in Fontainebleau. Well, not really "Club Med"... but you only study/work 80h a week. Which is a relief and a chance to get away to Bali on the weekend.


Thanks for your comments MBAsurvivor. How would your rate recruiting and placements in Asia? And any idea what INSEAD's alumni network is like in the region? Thanks again.

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juanito


Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Posts: 48
INSEAD Singapore
Wed Jul 18, 2007 04:37 PM
MBAsurvivor, I am verys curious to know how international INSEAD Singapore is. There has been some discussion going on about that...

Besides, kit has asked the second question I had. Thanks! Always good to get first hand info :-)

[Edited 18 Jul 2007 by juanito]

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kit

Joined: 03 Jun 2007
Posts: 12
INSEAD Singapore
Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:24 AM
Seems Capital Group recruits from INSEAD Singapore.

www.capgroup.com/careers/students/mba/

Anyone know other companies that actively recruit?

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JamieO

Joined: 05 Jun 2007
Posts: 22
INSEAD Singapore
Mon Jul 23, 2007 03:45 PM

To be honest, I am not sure if there is viral marketing here in this thread by some university administrators.
Most comments esp. against INSEAD are totally off the thruth. I have studied at US schools (Columbia, Wharton) and later went for business to INSEAD. The Singapore campus is brand-new and still under development. Fontainebleau is pretty large and top-gorgeous. Students and professors switch campuses regularly (they have to!). Courses are equal. There are INSEAD facilities in Silicon Valley, China, Israel and Abu Dhabi, from where you get research input as well. Professors are identical to top 10 business schools (they rotate as well). Courses are almost identical to eg. Harvard and Columbia. However the student body is somewhat older and much more experienced. GMAT is currently around 710-750. If you are just checking brochures and some bizarre statistics from "Economist" then please do not apply to INSEAD. You will never make it anyway, because you also would compare a Chinese Ssangyong (whatever) car with a Mercedes or Ferrari and go for your Chinese car for all its great feature list in the brochure. Hongkong is a major destination of all Asian interested INSEAD students. Most of them end up at banks such as Goldman, HSBC, Morgan Stanley, etc. Recruiting, however, is largely based on the French campus. The Singapore campus is viewed by some students as the "Club Med" after 6months of hellish 100h work weeks in Fontainebleau. Well, not really "Club Med"... but you only study/work 80h a week. Which is a relief and a chance to get away to Bali on the weekend.


Negative comments should not just be swept aside as viral marketing anymore than over positive comments should be either. I would hope that any MBA alumni would stick up for their school...

Personally, I have never been to Singapore or to INSEAD. That doesn't stop me from posting what I know about other schools in Asia. INSEAD may be a lot of things, but they don't have a monopoly on MBAs in Asia. There are several other really good (and dare I say it...possibly better) options in Asia.

No one is knocking INSEAD's reputation in France, we are purely stating that the quality may not be the same in Singapore. As you say, the programme is less intense there.

[Edited 23 Jul 2007 by JamieO]

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juanito


Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Posts: 48
INSEAD Singapore
Tue Jul 24, 2007 03:47 PM
I wouldn't state generally that statistics from the Economist are bizarre, but they can be a useful (side)source of information if you use it along with other (main)sources of info. They are definitely not the same as a brochure of the school itself!

Still, maybe some posts were too one sided, giving a too bad impression of INSEAD, to promote HKUST for some reason - but I find it good to have different insights and position here on the board.

Interesting what you write about INSEAD Singapore vs Fontainebleau! So usually people apply in France and spend some time during studies on the Singapore Campus if I understand well. Therefore about recruiting I should consult Fontainebleau statistics. But is it possible, ad advisable, to apply directly in SIngapore? How is recruiting there? What is you personal experience?
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olama

Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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INSEAD Singapore
Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:51 PM
I have heard similar comments about INSEAD in Singapore before. If it is the Asia experience you are after, you would be better off trying a leading Asia business school instead in Hong Kong for example. There are several that have excellent industry links and strong programmes.

If it is specifically Singapore you are interested in, I would say that both NUS and NTU are better choices than INSEAD.
If you want to mix the Asian/European experiences, NUS have an exchange programme for the MBA with ESSEC, IE, ESADE, HEC and St. Gallen. NTU on the other hand offer a Double MBA programme with both ESSEC and St. Gallen.

Personally, I wouldn't go for INSEAD just for the name...


To be honest, I am not sure if there is viral marketing here in this thread by some university administrators.
Most comments esp. against INSEAD are totally off the thruth. I have studied at US schools (Columbia, Wharton) and later went for business to INSEAD. The Singapore campus is brand-new and still under development. Fontainebleau is pretty large and top-gorgeous. Students and professors switch campuses regularly (they have to!). Courses are equal. There are INSEAD facilities in Silicon Valley, China, Israel and Abu Dhabi, from where you get research input as well. Professors are identical to top 10 business schools (they rotate as well). Courses are almost identical to eg. Harvard and Columbia. However the student body is somewhat older and much more experienced. GMAT is currently around 710-750. If you are just checking brochures and some bizarre statistics from "Economist" then please do not apply to INSEAD. You will never make it anyway, because you also would compare a Chinese Ssangyong (whatever) car with a Mercedes or Ferrari and go for your Chinese car for all its great feature list in the brochure. Hongkong is a major destination of all Asian interested INSEAD students. Most of them end up at banks such as Goldman, HSBC, Morgan Stanley, etc. Recruiting, however, is largely based on the French campus. The Singapore campus is viewed by some students as the "Club Med" after 6months of hellish 100h work weeks in Fontainebleau. Well, not really "Club Med"... but you only study/work 80h a week. Which is a relief and a chance to get away to Bali on the weekend.


Thanks for your comments MBAsurvivor. How would your rate recruiting and placements in Asia? And any idea what INSEAD's alumni network is like in the region? Thanks again.



I am a current INSEAD student and I think the threads about INSEAD are actually conveying an inaccurate image about the MBA program here. I hope the following answers some of the questions that were asked as I express how I see INSEAD from the inside.

The Fontainebleau and Singapore campuses are just one program. The same professors, the same students and even the same dean for the MBA program. My Managerial Accounting prof. was even teaching on both campuses during the same period (we didn't feel it though; he told us near the end of the course about some interesting insight about Chinese EMBAs). The 10 months program is divided into 5 periods, each 2 months long. I started in Fontainebleau for 3 periods and plan to spend the last 2 in Singapore (I had planned for a period in Wharton, but I did not like the electives offered there). Here at Fontainebleau we meet students from the class graduating in December (I am supposed to graduate in July next year) who spent some or most of their periods in Singapore and there is consensus among them that the campus is much newer and the student life livelier than in Fontainebleau. Study is the same and there seems to be no questions about that. Both campuses have very similar facilities (which are quite impressive, at least to me). I see the Singapore campus quite often in videos from events as they happen in Singapore. We usually have the same events at the same date. Recreation is more diverse in Singapore.

I have chosen to spend the last two periods in Singapore (knowing that these represent the recruiting season for my class). I made this decision based on the following information:
- We share the same database for job search
- There is the same number/quality of recruiters on both campuses
- Recruiters from Asia/Australia/Middle-East are more present on the Singapore campus
- Recruitment statistics for both campuses presented to us by the dean were almost identical in terms of numbers and sectors
- I see the list of companies present on campus each week and it is usually the same for both campuses
- I checked the career fair booklet and all the big firms are present on both campuses; the small firms from London are replaced by the small firms from Asia
- Singapore offers permanent residence status to students graduating at the Singapore campus

Regarding the alumni network in Asia, I just performed a search on the internal networking system (not the alumni system to which I will gain access when I graduate) and I searched for alumni from Hong Kong and China who listed themselves as Ambassadors (i.e. willing to talk to interested people about INSEAD) which is limited to alumni who graduated up to 4 years ago and the results were 67 and 168 respectively. I wonder what the size of the real network is, including non-ambassadors and all the other coutries.

For a better understanding of what an MBA at INSEAD is like I would suggest searching for student blogs. They talk about the real stuff that is happening and usually quite accurately.
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boots

Joined: 07 Oct 2007
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INSEAD Singapore
Thu Jan 10, 2008 06:42 AM
Has anyone applied to the second round? I don't know anyone else that has applied and am curious how other people are doing. Has anyone heard back yet for interviews?

For me Insead (specifically Insead Singapore) is a perfect fit. Insead definately has a unique reputation and unique focus, which may be very attractive to some and not to others. I would chose Insead above Harvard / Columbia / Wharton etc. But that's me.
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Anil_2007

Joined: 01 Mar 2008
Posts: 2
INSEAD Singapore
Sun Mar 02, 2008 05:30 AM
Hi there! I m looking forward to MBA in Singapore. Have anyone heard about PSB Acedemy. How is it like compared to INSEAD??
Please help thanks!!!
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alien740

Joined: 02 Mar 2008
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INSEAD Singapore
Mon Mar 03, 2008 08:44 AM
Has anyone applied to the second round? I don't know anyone else that has applied and am curious how other people are doing. Has anyone heard back yet for interviews?

For me Insead (specifically Insead Singapore) is a perfect fit. Insead definately has a unique reputation and unique focus, which may be very attractive to some and not to others. I would chose Insead above Harvard / Columbia / Wharton etc. But that's me.


would you also drive a hyundai over ferrari?

Insead is decent but nowhere near the schools you had mentioned.
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dyah.wulandari

Joined: 09 Apr 2008
Posts: 1
INSEAD Singapore
Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:19 AM
hi, plz share the comparassion between INSEAD, PSB and NTU? which one is better?
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tranductruong

Joined: 02 May 2008
Posts: 1
INSEAD Singapore
Sat May 03, 2008 10:27 AM
Dear all,

Seem that it has been very fancy and long-lasting debate on INSEAD Singapore compared to other Asian institutions since this topic was opened.

More practically, I'd like to know more about INSEAD Singapore. If you've got some information about it, could you possibly send to my email address at tranductruong@gmail.com ?

Many thanks in advance.
Warmest regards,
Tran Duc Truong
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carlkk

Joined: 02 May 2008
Posts: 8
INSEAD Singapore
Sat May 03, 2008 08:24 PM
I'm a prospective student for INSEAD, LBS and Oxford with some interest in Asia. I spent a while trying to figure out this whole Asian campus thing and was interested in INSEAD singapore campus. I landed on this thread/board during my research I was surprised at this whole slug fest, especially repeatedly on this board by HKUST people. I also saw some guy do the same HKUST branding on Business week as well -- it almost feels cheap and you feel sorry for the school.

Anyway, a simple Google search of "INSEAD Singapore FAQ " threw up this very good blog (of an INSEAD guy, so first hand account with no bashing of anyone - and I saw that he has many posts/photos etc of INSEAD singapore) where he/she specifically addresses this INSEAD Singapore confusion. Maybe you should do some basic research first!

onwardtomba.blogspot.com/2007/12/insead-singapore-…

For the guy who was asking about PBS or whatever, you should go to PBS or NTU. Don't waste your time on a "horrible" school like INSEAD which is where ignorant people like me are trying to go ;)
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alien740

Joined: 02 Mar 2008
Posts: 3
INSEAD Singapore
Sun May 04, 2008 07:03 AM
Carl,

I dont know whether or not you actually visited Insead's Singapore campus, the truth is that it really "sucks" and faculty+classes are not as good as the ones in France.

I'm an American who for a while thought about doing an MBA in Asia. Along the way i visited Insead-Singapore and HKUST.

In the US Insead is known to be the school for all rejects from Top 5 US schools, your CV would be in the same pile with Duke, Michigan and Cornell. I found it absolutely hilarious how high Insead alum/students think of the school.

I would take LBS and Oxford over Insead, how about Cambridge, have you looked at them as well? No interest in US schools?




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carlkk

Joined: 02 May 2008
Posts: 8
INSEAD Singapore
Sun May 04, 2008 02:23 PM
lol. another HKUST fanboy?

Now I'm worried whether I should consider HKUST at all..or I should consider CEIBS instead...

Carl,

I dont know whether or not you actually visited Insead's Singapore campus, the truth is that it really "sucks" and faculty+classes are not as good as the ones in France.

I'm an American who for a while thought about doing an MBA in Asia. Along the way i visited Insead-Singapore and HKUST.

In the US Insead is known to be the school for all rejects from Top 5 US schools, your CV would be in the same pile with Duke, Michigan and Cornell. I found it absolutely hilarious how high Insead alum/students think of the school.

I would take LBS and Oxford over Insead, how about Cambridge, have you looked at them as well? No interest in US schools?




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alien740

Joined: 02 Mar 2008
Posts: 3
INSEAD Singapore
Wed May 07, 2008 08:38 AM
starting 16 month track at Columbia in January. in the end i did not apply to any schools in Asia.

Just telling you as it stands in the US bud, relax.







lol. another HKUST fanboy?

Now I'm worried whether I should consider HKUST at all..or I should consider CEIBS instead...

Carl,

I dont know whether or not you actually visited Insead's Singapore campus, the truth is that it really "sucks" and faculty+classes are not as good as the ones in France.

I'm an American who for a while thought about doing an MBA in Asia. Along the way i visited Insead-Singapore and HKUST.

In the US Insead is known to be the school for all rejects from Top 5 US schools, your CV would be in the same pile with Duke, Michigan and Cornell. I found it absolutely hilarious how high Insead alum/students think of the school.

I would take LBS and Oxford over Insead, how about Cambridge, have you looked at them as well? No interest in US schools?




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gnm960

Joined: 27 May 2008
Posts: 1
INSEAD Singapore
Wed May 28, 2008 10:46 AM
I am not qualified to talk about all schools, because after I visited INSEAD I stopped looking elsewhere and I applied only there. Even though I did not do a survey, I remember maybe 30-40% of my friends had applied only at INSEAD.
There may be schools that claim better professors, or even a bigger alumni network, but there are many people who choose to be at INSEAD because of the culture and the people they meet there who are amazing, coming from all over the world and going back all over (not to put down the profs, they are as good I guess as many of those came from top 5 in US or other European schools, exactly for the pool of people and culture that they find at INSEAD, which brings even more quality students etc etc). . .

Maybe I found it at times too diverse in the beginning with 5 different students talking completely different things from 5 different points of view and finding it difficult to agree in a group meeting, but now, after I graduated 3 months ago their thoughts are the ones I remember as vividly as profs' and understand exactly what diversity is about. In the UN where I work in Africa we have people with different countries of origin, but with similar experiences for the past 5-10 years. There you get people with different countries of origin, different thoughts, interests in life, backgrounds - it would be amazing if the world of 100 years from now would be like INSEAD and not melted in one culture of a country like US. In such a place one can never learn enough from peers.
And, with so many interesting and different people, I could not get enough to know more of them. My personal opinion is that I would not have endeavored to know as many people had it not been for completely different things that I found in the next guy/girl. This makes the friendships stronger and when you graduate, you are all over the world and have intesting things to do together rather than beging only in hubs for example. I find it a different dynamic...
Other than this a quality education is offered by many schools. In these days it's different for one to go wrong, but my advice is to attend one day of a national week, sit in a couple of electives (they are more interesting) and talk to students what they were doing before, what they wanna do after. It can be enriching even if you choose to attend elsewhere.
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Thomas


Joined: 03 Jun 2008
Posts: 76
INSEAD Singapore
Wed Jun 04, 2008 03:59 AM
Hi,

INSEAD is not a top MBA school in Asia; it is a top MBA school in the world!

Their selection criterion is very tight, and all their graduates have solid academic and professional experience. Many of them have worked for more than 7 years and hold very successful and high profile positions in leading companies.

If you want to get the best from your MBA, or if you are looking for a post-MBA career internationally, I would strongly advise you to do your MBA in top business schools in the world, such as INSEAD or CEIBS, but not top business schools in Asia, such as NUS, NTU, or HKUST. There is a huge difference between the top 20 MBA schools in the world and top 20 MBA schools in Asia.

However, if you are looking for a post-MBA career in the Asia Pacific Region such as in Singapore, India or China, then it makes sense to do a MBA in a top Asian school because of two reasons: 1) These top schools are highly recognized in the region; 2) Their cost fees are significantly lower than schools like Harvard, Wharton, INSEAD, or LSE.

I hope the above information could be useful to you.

Kind regards,
Thomas


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copernicus


Joined: 25 Mar 2007
Posts: 81
INSEAD Singapore
Sun Jun 08, 2008 02:11 PM
Hi,

INSEAD is not a top MBA school in Asia; it is a top MBA school in the world!

I would strongly advise you to do your MBA in top business schools in the world, such as INSEAD or CEIBS



ha ha, im sorry, but thats the funniest thing i have heard in a long time

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lukeh

Joined: 24 Oct 2007
Posts: 218
INSEAD Singapore
Sun Jun 08, 2008 04:13 PM
This tit-for-tat infighting betwen INSEAD and HKUST is getting quite boring, no? Especially when everyone already knows that the best school in the world is Rayat London College.
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Jake740

Joined: 28 Jun 2008
Posts: 3
INSEAD Singapore
Sun Jun 29, 2008 05:21 AM
interested speaking with people who got in...
what are you profiles... scores.. experience...etc

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