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JohnnyL  
Joined: 26 Sep 2008 Posts: 15 |
ESMT MBA in Berlin
Hi Evan2007,Mon Sep 29, 2008 09:51 PM I agree with you that the ESMT campus is rather impressive. But the academic quality and their appearance in the public is still very poor. Only the articles in Die Welt, a newspaper owned by Axel Springer (one of the sponsors of ESMT!), and those written by a journalist called Axel Gloger are positive. The coverage of other publications (e.g. Spiegel.de, FTD) transport a very negative image of ESMT. Best, JL |
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| Evan2007
Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 21 |
ESMT MBA in Berlin
Hi JL - Cool. I love that you are watching these journalists so closely! A friend of mine who knows I'm looking into German schools rummaged up an article in Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, "Traum vom Berliner Harvard" from September 7, which is not quite as negative a coverage you mention. Tue Sep 30, 2008 04:58 PM What are your favorites in Germany, by the way? Evan |
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| JohnnyL
Joined: 26 Sep 2008 Posts: 15 |
ESMT MBA in Berlin
Hi Evan,Tue Sep 30, 2008 08:15 PM You are right, this article is not as negative as many others which I have read in last time. On the other hand, the fact that they are far away from getting an international accreditation, that they hardly received a German accreditation (the report of the Wissenschaftsrat can be found in the Internet) and that they obviously faked a Mexican ranking is a clear evidence of incapacity. So be beware of that school! MBA Channel, which seems to be an independent German information site, has reported many times about ESMT in a very negative way. And Berlin is far away from being an economic or financial centre in Germany. As far as I can overview it, Mannheim with its triple accreditation, its ranking positions and its tradition and WHU with its very good EMBA and its close ties to companies seem to be the key players on the German market. Best, JL |
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| Evan2007
Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 21 |
ESMT MBA in Berlin
Hi JL - Yeah, Frau Schwertfeger really went after ESMT in the Financial Times, huh? Just read it. (Were you aware that the journalist you mentioned before, Axel Gloger, also writes or wrote for FT?) Anyway, yeah, I dunno. We'll keep our eyes on them - one eye cautious and the other one hopeful. The idea of a solid business school in Berlin is just too good, but maybe we're just aren't there yet. I don't think it's that critical that Berlin isn't a financial center. Neither is Lausanne (or Mannheim), I guess. Take care! Evan
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| JohnnyL
Joined: 26 Sep 2008 Posts: 15 |
ESMT MBA in Berlin
Hi Evan,Wed Oct 01, 2008 06:39 PM Yes, Frau Schwertfeger must be called the iron lady within the German business school world. But in most articles, she seems to write the truth. She was the first person to report about the financial problems of GISMA, she found out that ESMT faked a ranking and she pointed out the weak points of ESMT from the beginning. I agree with you that Berlin needs a solid business school. But I do not believe that ESMT will manage to get to this level. Perhaps IMD, LBS (or Mannheim or WHU) should establish a branch there. :o) Best, JL |
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| AALRO
Joined: 01 Oct 2008 Posts: 1 |
ESMT MBA in Berlin
Dear Evan & JohnnyThu Oct 02, 2008 11:31 AM It' s been quite interesting to follow your comments on the ESMT..., as I am really interested in doing an MBA in Berlin, I decided to go check out the Campus, and I was really satisfied... I ' ve also been doing some research on the proffesors and most of them come from well known MBA schools (INSEAD, IMB... etc..) wich seems great.... I also contacted former MBA students and I got in contact with 3 of them (classes 06 , 07 ) and I got really good comments ...., besides, they all got promising Job offers (consulting, energy ) and are still sattisfied with their desition..... It is clear that when you read strong articles such as those you have mentioned.. you'd rather go somewhere else.. but from what I've learned of ESMT, particulary from their ex-MBA's I believe that it can be a very promising option.. Alex |
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