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RSM vs Nyenrode!!! URGENT!!!!
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mishka777 
Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Posts: 1 |
RSM vs Nyenrode!!! URGENT!!!!
Hello,Sun Sep 13, 2009 01:59 AM I have the following question: i have no money. I've admitted to Nyenrode with financing of education (1/2 schol, 1/2 loan). Also I have admitted to RSM with no financing. What will you say, to wait next year and find financing for rsm or make mba in nyenrode? besides i like very much spanish language and placement of barcelona city. should i go to mba this year or apply to esade and eada in barcelona? on one hand i have admission to some schools on the other good country for study. pls advise. tnx. |
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Alan   Joined: 16 Dec 2008 Posts: 95 |
RSM vs Nyenrode!!! URGENT!!!!
These are all pretty personal questions. Bottom line for me would be: Are you in a hurry to get an MBA? If not, wait one more year until you have a some more money saved and get accepted to a school you're really excited about. Nyenrode is a good option, but as you imply, RSM is a little better recognized on the international scene. Clearly, by getting into those two good Dutch schools, you have a good shot at those Spanish ones, too.Mon Sep 14, 2009 07:33 AM Good luck to you. |
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| RSMMBA
Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Posts: 4 |
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To respond to your question about the RSM MBA, I have gone through the program, and have found out that:Thu Nov 19, 2009 06:45 PM 1) It was nothing that the marketing materials from the school promised it would be. The progam is poorly run, the RSM staff is rude and not helpful, and they chase you for as along as they want your money. Once you have paid your bill, you get no help afterward, neither from the Program Managers (who are nothing but arrogant and lazy) not from the Career Services staff, which is lazy and incompetent. You start to wonder whether they even deserve the "top" ranking they used to have at some point. 2) It is not worth the money. Even in the Netherlands, few of the 2008-2009 RSM graduates could find any decent jobs after graduation (as the school brings no recruiters to campus, other than a few small local no-name companies. Shell or Unilever do not recruit at RSM. And, outside of Holland, noone even knows what RSM is all about. So, at the end of the day, it is not worth the effort or the money. The RSM brand does not exist outside of the RSM website, which clearly would invite you to apply and enroll in the program. They just fail to tell you that once they have gotten your check, you will not be getting any further assistance. [Edited by RSMMBA on 19 Nov 2009] |
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| gabrielelux
Joined: 29 Nov 2009 Posts: 2 |
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Hello,Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:35 PM I'm quite interested about your comments about rsm mba , since i'm wondering if to apply for the 2011 mba. Which are your sources? did you apply? did you enroll into the program? Thanks |
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| RSMMBA
Joined: 18 Nov 2009 Posts: 4 |
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I am an RSM graduate from 2009. I am employed in the US (which was something I was able to accomplish through my personal connections and could have done without even going through the RSM MBA program. I just followed the RSM Career Services advice, which was 'we cannot help you, so you better help yourself, as networking is the best way'. Since RSM has no networking opportunities, nor a functional database of all RSM alumni, I had to rely on my own network and resources (somehow records between 1999 and 2006 are completely missing, and current alumni are reluctant to deal with the school as most of us graduated from there with major disappointment and disillusions). So, basically, do not believe whatever you see in marketing promotional materials that come out of RSM, and unless you can afford the program and won't go into a loan/debt situation to enroll, look for something else. Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:55 PM RSM does not give scholarships (they give out few, but VERY few, much less than what their website claims), and they do not exceed 10,000 Euros. You living expenses would be enormous, because Holland is a very overpriced place, and you get very little for you money........ |
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| Rhino Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 |
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RSMMBA, your comment is shocking to me...Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:24 AM I though a well-known school RSM would treat their students better since you're paying much more tuition fee for their MBA program. Maybe this is personal question, but I'm gonna ask it anyway: -could it be that you're not EU nationality so that you were not given much attention? I know some facts that EU schools would give better service to EU students but not to international students. Have any of you receive such treatment while studying at any of the EU Universities (excluding INSEAD)? |
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| donho199 Joined: 16 Jul 2009 Posts: 117 |
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Why ppld go to holland and pay for the MBA i dont know.Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:14 AM But to be very honest with you guys, except from United Kingdom which is different, the remaining continental europe system is very much inline. The bologna process brings the system and standard as ever closer. Now in some countries, they dont have a MBA title for the degrees but the course content and delivery method is almost the same. And you pay penny to study like France or Germany the 2 most important economies in Europe. Bottom line is unless you get into top programmes and that i mean HEC paris INSEAD then pay for the fees else dont bother. I would not go to IMD for the same reason. Why paying a fortune instead of going to a state university which is as good or even better and pay so little. Of course, the education you get from HEC Paris or IMS or IESE worth the money you pay for. But hang on a minute, why paying so much when you can get a similar deal just across the road |
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| donho199 Joined: 16 Jul 2009 Posts: 117 |
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Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:18 AM RSMMBA, your comment is shocking to me... It is surely discrimination and nothing else. No i have not experience anything as such and i have studied at top institutions as well as less than prestigous colleges in europe. In fact as an international student, ppl treat me better, they are afraid that i am not familiar with the culture/language/ etc. so they give me an extra hand. Really appreciate that. |
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| ale82
Joined: 11 Nov 2009 Posts: 19 |
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Unless you have some financing concern, how can you really compare the two?Fri Dec 04, 2009 09:57 AM RSM is by far much more recognized both locally and internationally!!!! According to the last FT rankings, just to cite some evidence, RSM has been among the top 30 MBA in the world in 3 years out of 4, and, in one of the those years also among the TOP 25 MBA in the world!! In addition, the new dean of RSM is goign to give even more weight to RSM' s international reputation. Just get a look at his CV. Cheers |
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| Rhino Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 72 |
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RSM always been famous for its economy degree.Fri Dec 04, 2009 11:30 AM If one has an econometric degree, one can definitely get high-flying trader job. I don't know much about its MBA program but I am sure like the city of Rotterdam. Go Dutch! |
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| SatisfiedRSMMBA
Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Posts: 1 |
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Hi Mishka,Fri Feb 05, 2010 01:23 PM I only read your question now, and hope that you have made the right decision in the meantime... I am also an RSM MBA and would like to nuance a little the comments made by my incognito classmate. If I had the choice I would do the RSM program all over again without a doubt. I loved the people, the classes and the multi-cultural atmosphere. Of course there were areas of attention, but which program does not have those? The most important point is that the school acts upon feedback of the students and improves the program wherever possible. Concerning the Financing and the Career Services, these options do exist at RSM and definitely work well and help the students who most need it. But you should ask yourself the question if those services are the key drivers for your decision to do an MBA? If you want to start your own company, you're also not going to complain that you can't find customers or money. If you're a capable entrepreneur, you'll always find a solution for those challenges and you'll focus instead on your product and the execution. People who still think that companies will recruit them just because they paid a lot of money for an MBA from a well-known school, should think again... And by the way, I currently work for BCG and have classmates who work at ASML, Roland Berger, Sony, Shell, Philips, etcetera, so again, it's not about the MBA, but about YOU! Good luck. T. |
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| Niels
Joined: 07 Jan 2010 Posts: 3 |
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I'm a grad student at the moment at RSM Erasmus University.Wed Feb 17, 2010 09:16 AM And to be straight up, I really do not recognise the RSM in the comments made by RSMMBA. If they really treated him/her that way, than I'm pretty sure (s)he deserved it. I find the staff of the RSm very helpful, the professors are nice and even teach on first name basis. Even though most of them are international ofter quoted and published scientists. Every time when I have a question, the staff of the RSM helps me out and I get a reply within 24 hrs. And there ARE recruitment days at RSM, with Unilever, Shell, KPMG, BCG, McKinsey and all the other big firms. I've had diners with recruiters of KPMG and PriceWaterhouseCooper, all organized by STAR and RSM. I'd choose RSM in a split second again, and I pay for my parttime graduate education myself, well worh these € 30k. P.S.: I've been an international student in the Netherlands and in Spain and this is my 3rd study, and I find it the most professional one. Plus, everybody knows Erasmus, worldwide... |
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| rftg
Joined: 20 Feb 2010 Posts: 3 |
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Do not waste your money in Netherlands MBAs, particularly Nyenrode. It is just defunct school. Career Service is literally fu**ed up and there is very little chance of getting something unless you know local language.
Sun Feb 21, 2010 10:30 PM [Edited by rftg on 09 Mar 2010] |
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